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Cataloging Photos and Storing Them on the Computer![[Wade, George]](/webx/?30@@1) George Wade (apparently) - 03:29am Apr 17, 2008 PSTvia emailDescribing picture content: saw, crosscut_saws, > Also - asian saw, pull_saw ? Because you don't push it.
Would it help to have a personal edition of a Thesaurus of Graphic Materials, rather than using an impersonal one, or relying on memory? Also using a search engine that is linked to 'Word Net' or other useful thesaurus.
We all have areas of special knowledge that need to be included in our own thesaurus so that "Pull_saw" finds Back_saw" or "Asian_saw". We only need the bulk of the time consuming public Graphic Thesaurus or Semantic Web when the pictures lie outside our normal range; importing those terms to our personal thesaurus then, to keep it current but trim.
rickl
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Re: Cataloging Photos and Storing Them on the Computer
Charles unwittingly (?) illustrates another problem with keywords: misspellings. His first photo was, I'm guessing, from Yunnan (yun=clouds, nan=south; a province in south-western China whose capital is Kunming), not Yunan. If I'm right, then if Charles reads this or otherwise discovers his mistake, he might well search at some future time for "Yunnan" and fail to find the photo in question. And this isn't allowing for simple typos that anyone could make on any word when they're in a hurry.
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Re: Cataloging Photos and Storing Them on the Computer
On 30-Apr-08, at 4:31 AM, rickl wrote:
> Charles unwittingly (?) illustrates another problem with keywords:
> misspellings. His first photo was, I'm guessing, from Yunnan
> (yun=clouds, nan=south; a province in south-western China whose
> capital is Kunming), not Yunan. If I'm right, then if Charles reads
> this or otherwise discovers his mistake, he might well search at
> some future time for "Yunnan" and fail to find the photo in
> question. And this isn't allowing for simple typos that anyone
> could make on any word when they're in a hurry.
But if he searches in Chinese he'll find it first go ! Having
entered metadata in the same language.
Now it may be possible to search in Japanese for a Chinese name, with
new standards in SE Asian languages ? Not being sure of the details
yet...
George
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tony671
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May 1, 2008 8:12 am
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Re: Cataloging Photos and Storing Them on the Computer
I think George is right and limiting the number of possible cataloguing keywords is important. There's more on this at:
< http://www.controlledvocabulary.com/> Also pertinent to this thread is an excellent book on "digital asset management" for photographers, written by Peter Krogh in 2005:
< http://www.thedambook.com/> The first chapter can be downloaded. I felt it had too many unnecessary illustrations, and wasn't too sure how good the rest of the book would be. Well, the rest is excellent and I highly recommend it. There is a good associated forum, where most seem to prefer Expression Media (formerly iView) to Extensis Portfolio. The main suggested change since the publication of the book is replacement of the "Import from Camera" script for Bridge with ImageIngester:
< http://imageingester.com/ImageIngester/ii-info.php> I'm still developing an appropriate workflow for my needs. I think I'll end up with something very similar to that proposed by Krogh, with the addition at the start (because I shoot wildlife and discard a high proportion of shots) of the very fast photo browser Photo Mechanic:
< http://www.camerabits.com/site/index.html> Tony
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