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Upgrade to iPod Touch mike.millard (apparently) - 02:21pm Jun 16, 2009 PSTvia emailWe got an upgrade to the iPhone at WWDC. Now, does anyone's gut have a
feeling we should expect a corresponding "sexing up" of the iPod Touch
any time soon?
Something for Steve Jobs to do at his official re-introduction?
Mike Millard
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Alexander Hoffman (apparently)
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Jun 24, 2009 11:41 am
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Re: Upgrade to iPod Touch
On Jun 21, 2009, at 4:08 AM, Marilyn Matty wrote:
> New York Wireless is working very hard to make free wireless happen
> all over the city, beginning with 100% coverage of Manhattan:
Alas...most New Yorkers don't live in Manhattan. In fact, only around
20% of the city's inhabitants live on that particular island. Out of
the 8,214,426, here's how it breaks down (2008 estimates, courtesy of
the census bureau):
Brooklyn: 2,556,598
Queens: 2,293,007
Manhattan: 1,634,795
Bronx: 1,391,903
Staten Island: 487,407
So, even if Manhattan did have ubiquitous free WiFi -- and it does
not, by the way -- the 6.6 million people* who live in the city's
"outer boroughs" would not be covered.
> And if you're near any of the Apple stores, you can also catch some
> free WiFi rays nearby from the store's free service...
Seeing as the Apple Stores are all in Manhattan, we're still talking
about the same thing.
So, I am going to try to make a larger point here: parts of every city
have free WiFi commonly available. But most of most cities do not. And
because an iPod touch is dependent upon WiFi for many features, it is
limited by the availability of WiFi. Free WiFi is not ubiquitous, or
even close. If you can live with that, fine. But if you cannot, the
touch might not be for you.
(6.6 million people is greater than the population of all but 14
states. That's a lot of people to be waving off, Marilyn. If we wanted
to, we could crush you, simply by the weight of our numbers and our
jewelry, to say nothing of our strollers and our bloggers. You should
give us more respect.
Or else.)
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=Alex Hoffman
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John Massengale (apparently)
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Jun 26, 2009 1:42 pm
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Re: Upgrade to iPod Touch
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Curtis Wilcox (apparently)
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Jun 26, 2009 1:42 pm
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Re: Upgrade to iPod Touch
On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:35 PM, John_Wolff wrote:
> Sorry if I'm hijacking this thread but . . .
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> Does anyone yet know if the 3.0 software on an existing iPOD touch
> will run the TomTom GPS app that was demo'd during the WWDC keynote?
I don't know if the program would run but it certainly wouldn't *work*
because it requires GPS hardware that's only present in the iPhone (3G
or newer, I think).
But don't lose hope, the 3.0 software was accompanied by a new SDK
that allows developers to write software to go along with new kinds of
devices that can be connected to the docking port. I would be
surprised if there isn't a GPS dock add-on developed in the next 12
months.
I'm hoping to see a flash media reader with flexible software. I
recently took a trip to Europe and didn't want the bulk or worry
involved in bringing a laptop but still wanted Internet access *and*
the ability to backup my camera's SD cards. I brought the iPod touch
which was great for getting online but didn't help with the SD cards.
I also brought my old WinMobile PDA which has an SD card slot and
WiFi. It took me a while but I finally found a program that would let
me do bulk uploads on the old PDA (Total Commander for PocketPC, it
comes with an ftp plugin). The process was slow and the software a bit
buggy (which also describes WinMobile's own programs) but it gave me
the reassurance that my photos (and a few videos) were on my server as
well as on my SD cards each day.
My hope is a flash media reader for the iPhone/iPod touch will allow
various programs to access inserted cards so files could be uploaded
or download over the network, copied to the iPhone/iPod's own storage
and files stored on the iPhone/iPod could be copied to the cards. Even
if the iPhone/iPod storage is isolated from the storage used for
synced music, videos, or software (as is the case with iPods that can
be mounted as disks on computers), it would still be extremely useful.
Of course such an add-on will need to be significantly cheaper than
dedicated devices like the Photo Safe II.
http://db.tidbits.com/article/10064
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mmatty (apparently)
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Jun 29, 2009 2:08 pm
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Re: Upgrade to iPod Touch
[OK, time to cool the borough battles! :-) -Adam]
On Jun 24, 2009, at 3:41 PM, Alexander Hoffman wrote:
> On Jun 21, 2009, at 4:08 AM, Marilyn Matty wrote:
>> New York Wireless is working very hard to make free wireless happen
>> all over the city, beginning with 100% coverage of Manhattan:
>
> Alas...most New Yorkers don't live in Manhattan.
I was responding to a post about Manhattan.
> So, I am going to try to make a larger point here: parts of every city
> have free WiFi commonly available. But most of most cities do not. And
> because an iPod touch is dependent upon WiFi for many features, it is
> limited by the availability of WiFi. Free WiFi is not ubiquitous, or
> even close. If you can live with that, fine. But if you cannot, the
> touch might not be for you.
This wasn't the issue being discussed - access in Manhattan was. My
point was that in "da city" it's easy to find free or inexpensive
access - even in many parks. And if you're near a MacDonald's or
Dunkin' Doughnuts, which are in many rural areas, there's a good
chance you can pick up WiFi for the price of a small coffee or soda.
I've done this at pit stops along highways in rural areas far from
major cities.
A consideration - most fast food and chain dining retailers are
already wired for broadband - their cash registers and computers beam
info to HQ in real time. With Mickey D. and Dunkin putting so much
pressure on indy coffee shops in Manhattan and in other cities, the
indies are also offering the service to stay competitive. Eventually,
broadband might become rather like air conditioning and heating -
something patrons come to expect anywhere, anytime the shop is open -
at least I hope so.
> (6.6 million people is greater than the population of all but 14
> states. That's a lot of people to be waving off, Marilyn. If we wanted
> to, we could crush you, simply by the weight of our numbers and our
> jewelry, to say nothing of our strollers and our bloggers. You should
> give us more respect. Or else.)
Fahggedaboutit! I live in a very unfashionable 'hood in Queens. I've
got to walk about half a mile to Starbucks or McDonalds, and about a
quarter mile to Dunkin Doughnuts. But there's WiFi in the library
about 4 blocks away, which I can pick up in a nearby park if I wanted
- every NYC and Queensboro public library and school has WiFi.
Marilyn
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Ryoichi Morita (apparently)
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Jun 29, 2009 2:08 pm
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Re: Upgrade to iPod Touch
On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 12:35 PM, jiclark <jclark ouraynet.com> wrote:
And Ryoichi, could you post more info about the Verizon MiFi card, and more specifically, how it works with your Touch?
The MiFi card is about the size of a credit card and about a quarter of an inch in thickness. Using the card is very easy; turn it on then turn your iPod on. That's about it. Most of the time, iPod will find the MiFi card on its own. You will have to enter the security code only the first time you use it.
I wish the service contract was a bit cheaper; $40/mo for 250mb allowance and $60 for 5gb. And you have to sign up for two years.
On the other hand, I've used it as an emergency backup when my internet connection was down. I've also used to it with my T-Mobile Wi-Fi cell phone. It seemed a bit weired to use the T-Mobile phone with the Verizon Wi-Fi but it worked anyway.
For more information, here is the link.
(If the link does not work, try verizonwireless.com > Phones & Accessories > Mobile Broadband Devices)
Ryoichi "Roy" Morita
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nanc (apparently)
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Jun 30, 2009 10:08 am
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Re: Upgrade to iPod Touch
> Fahggedaboutit! I live in a very unfashionable 'hood in Queens. I've
> got to walk about half a mile to Starbucks or McDonalds, and about a
> quarter mile to Dunkin Doughnuts. But there's WiFi in the library
> about 4 blocks away, which I can pick up in a nearby park if I wanted
> - every NYC and Queensboro public library and school has WiFi.
Marilyn,
Don't the schools have secure wireless in NYC and Queensboro? I would
think you would have to have that with "hacking" attempts on insecure
wireless.
Nanc
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