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New iPods: Is iPod Classic Going Away?

[Weintraub, David]David Weintraub (apparently) - 12:36pm Sep 10, 2008 PST
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I agree with your assessment about the iPod Classic. The original iPod
was a 5Gb device and seemed quite expansive at the time. The 160Gb was
probably not a big seller because it was simply too big. Does anyone
really need to store 40,000 songs or 170 hours of video. Heck, until
recently, you couldn't even get computers with that much disk space.

The only remaining iPod Classic is the 120Gb model (which is still
bigger than most laptops). But, we are seeing the Nano nibbling down
at the lower end. What was originally a 4Gb player, the Nano at 16Gb
is now large enough to store most people's music and video collection.
Next year, the 32Gb Nano will be out. Since there are few games for
the iPod Classic, it is mainly used to store songs, video, and photos.
Unless you have extensive collections of these, most of that diskspace
sits empty. I have a 30Gb iPod classic, and I have what I think of as
an extensive music collection, and almost half of my iPod sits empty.
Most of the kids I know seem to have no problems storing their music
on 8Gb iPod Nanos.

The iPod Touch is obviously the wave of the future for Apple. Now at
32Gb capacity, it really can do everything an iPhone can do except
take pictures and make phone calls (neither of these things are
standout features of the iPhone anyway). I look at it as about 10Gb to
16Gb to store most people's music collection, and the rest for games
and other applications. Within the next year, the capacity will be up
to 64Gb. With the new improved iPod Nano taking over the pure music
player market and the iPod Touch as a more complete Internet enabled
device, there really isn't much room in the lineup for the iPod
Classic anymore. By next year, it will go the way of the Plymouth and
Oldsmobile.

By the way, back in February, I was looking at the iPod Touch as a
replacement for my Palm PDA which I had stopped using. In June, the
third party applications were tempting me to go ahead and buy, but the
fact that it didn't have an external speaker meant that it couldn't
beep when I had an appointment. That's a showstopper when you look at
something as a PDA replacement.

Now, with an external speaker, there is no reason for me not to get
the iPod Touch as my next PDA.

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atlauren (apparently) - Sep 18, 2008 12:36 am (#48 Total: 51)  

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My number of Bruce shows hovers somewhere around my age, so I am
incapable of not weighing in on this culturally essential discussion...

On Sep 14, 2008, at 4:39 AM, tresy254 wrote:
> In 1980, the year of London Calling, the Village Voice Paz and Jop
> poll called Springsteen "the Godfather of the Punks." It's not as
> strange a comparison as you might think. Springsteen originally
> wrote "Hungry Heart", which appeared on "The River" that year, for
> the Ramones, and I can easily imagine Joey singing it.

Yep, it was written for the Ramones. Joey asked for a song, Bruce
wrote it, Jon Landau told him to keep that one.

On Sep 15, 2008, at 2:27 PM, RK wrote:

> Not to belabor the point, but I remember reading that the Nebraska
> album (great) and Born in the USA were both from his home taping in
> his cabin, and from the same creative period. They just redid the
> songs on BitUSA and added orchestrations etc. They probably split
> the group of songs between "depressive, but possibly danceable" and
> "depressive and dark".

Indeed. The songs on Nebraska and BitUSA come from the same home-
recording demos. The original demos became Nebraska. The holy grail
of Brucedom, "the electric Nebraska", became the BitUSA album. Disk
#3 of Tracks contains a lot of songs from that period, and it becomes
easy to see how they drew from the same well.

-Andrew

chris_kohuch - Sep 18, 2008 12:44 am (#49 Total: 51)  

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I personally have a Classic 160 which serves me well, both for storing and accessing my extensive library and as a place to store files to move between computers when on the road. I also have a 32GB Touch (1st Gen), which I tend to take when I travel. While I personally continue to want a large storage capacity iPod I suspect that the days of the iPod Classic are indeed numbered. It's simply a numbers game and the Classic just doesn't appeal to enough people (I consider myself the exception not the norm at this point) any more to be viable on the long term.

That being said one point that I notice that seems to get little play (maybe it's just not an issue for most people) is how much SLOWER RAM based iPod's are as compared to Hard Drive based models, when it comes to actually transferring the data. Copying over a large video podcast, TV episode or movie to my touch gives me time to take a break and go make tea or coffee. The same process on my classic generally takes just a minute or two.

Nigel Stanger (apparently) - Sep 19, 2008 12:56 pm (#50 Total: 51)  

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On 18/09/2008 7:44 PM, "chris_kohuch" <chris_kohuchdccnet.com> spake thus:

> how much SLOWER RAM based iPod's are as compared to Hard Drive based models,
> when it comes to actually transferring the data.

That's just a feature of the flash memory technology. Read times are fast,
write times are horrible. You get the same thing writing to any flash
device, e.g., USB sticks. I'm really not looking forward to syncing my music
to an iPhone when I eventually get one (probably not until they go to 32GB).

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katnagel (apparently) - Sep 24, 2008 3:22 pm (#51 Total: 51)  

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kirkmcelhearn.com (Kirk McElhearn) wrote on 2008/09/18:
>What that does is return tracks in order by album. So it will first
>return album A, then B, etc. It won't return random tracks _grouped_
>by album.

Which is exactly what I want it to do, and why I haven't used iTunes
playlists much up to now.

Random tracks grouped by album?
  * the final chorus of the Verdi Requiem before the Dies Irae?
  * Sarastro singing "In diesem heil'gen Hallen" before Tamino and
Papageno enter the temple in Mozart's Magic Flute?
  * the coda before the thunderstorm in Beethoven's Symphony #6?

No thanks!
<shudder>

I'm going to try the suggested method.

K
Kat Nagel


[OK, we're way off the original topic, so let's wind this down. -Adam]



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