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[Durrant, Paul]Paul Durrant (apparently) - 01:02am Sep 25, 2007 PST
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At 15:16 -0700 24/9/07, TidBITS Editors wrote:
> For years they have
> resisted giving their new Macs unique names. Rather than using
> something like Power Mac 7100/80 they now just refer to the iMac as
> the 24-inch iMac. Of course, unique names are still needed as soon
> as it comes to support or hardware repairs. On their support site
> Apple uses additional monikers to distinguish the models from each
> other. The latest iMacs and MacBook Pros are referred to as "Mid
> 2007." [Editor's note: Apple has long suffered from this problem. I
> first wrote about it over eight years ago in "Macintosh Model
> Implosion: What's in a Name?" (1999-06-14), and frankly, nothing has
> improved since then. -Adam]

I think that by keeping the same name while changing the computer has
been a really good move on Apple's part.

By using the same name, the previous advertising keeps on working.
Someone remembers an ad for an iMac from three or four years ago,
asks in a computer store for an iMac, and gets the latest version.

Whereas when names changed frequently, asking for a Mac SE might get
the response "They don't make those any more, how about this nice
Dell".

It makes it a little more difficult for those of us who like to keep
track of the Mac market, and for technicians to identify what exact
model people have, but after all - we're interested, or we're paid
for that.

Long live the iMac, whatever configuration it comes in.

regards,

Paul



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Damien Barrett (apparently) - Sep 26, 2007 8:16 pm (#6 Total: 10)  

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Re: Mac model naming conventions

Let's also not forget about the excellent spec database, MacTracker.

http://www.mactracker.ca

I use it all the time. There's even an iPod (and iPhone) version now.
Good stuff.

- Damien Barrett


dr (apparently) - Sep 27, 2007 4:26 am (#7 Total: 10)  

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Todd Ruston wrote:
> On Sep 26, 2007, at 1:00 AM, Nigel Stanger wrote:
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>> I don't know why Apple can't just make a service available on their
>> web site
>> where you enter a machine's serial number and it tells you what it is.
>
> Actually, they do.
>
> http://www.apple.com/support/
>
> Enter your serial number in the "About your support coverage" field
> at the bottom of the page. It will return your warranty/AppleCare
> status, and the model description of your specific Mac.
>
Interestingly I'm just now reading this thread and a few hours ago was trying to figure out which MDD system was in front of me to be able to find the specs. The specifications page now has a serial number box and it appears to work even with refurb units. I just copied the serial from the About this Mac information window, pasted it in, and the correct spec page came up.

Nice.

David Ross

mwestley (apparently) - Sep 29, 2007 5:43 am (#8 Total: 10)  

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On Sep 27, 2007, at 12:16 AM, Nigel Stanger wrote:

> On 27/09/2007 6:07 AM, "Johann Beda" <st-tidbits.combeda.ca> spake
> thus:
>
>> <http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html>
>
> On the other hand, this one recognised all of the machines
> mentioned above.
> Wow! That site's definitely getting bookmarked :)

The chipmunk found the serial number from the Mac SE I have in my
closet; I wonder how far back it goes?

Malcolm



tuc - Sep 26, 2007 12:00 am (#9 Total: 10)  

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Confusion Over Santa Rosa: What's in a Name

a comment on http://db.tidbits.com/article/9191

> many, and even publications like Macworld and Ars
> Technica have gone so far as to claim the new iMacs
> and MacBook Pros "use the Santa Rosa chipset."

> Unfortunately, it is simply wrong

> Santa Rosa is not a chipset, but rather Intel's code
> name for their most recent mobile computing platform.

Point taken, but I think the author is being too pedantic.

Let's take an automobile analogy. May a speaker say that some
new car "uses a Chrysler minivan engine"? "Chrysler minivan"
is not an engine, yet it is fine to use "Chrysler minivan"
as an adjective phrase to indicate that the speaker intends
the kind of engine associated with the Chrysler minivan platform.

Likewise a speaker may say "Santa Rosa chipset" to indicate
that that s/he intends the kind of chipset associated with
the Santa Rosa platform. There's nothing improper in this.

regards,
-tuc



lists-for-dmi - Oct 2, 2007 2:10 pm (#10 Total: 10)  

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Of course, unique names are still needed as soon as it comes to support or hardware repairs. On their support site Apple uses additional monikers to distinguish the models from each other. The latest iMacs and MacBook Pros are referred to as "Mid 2007" The models with Summer (or other seasons) are meaningless to those outside the USA. Looking at an iBook and quickly ascertaining it is late, early or mid, or a G4 and noticing it has PCI or AGP graphics, or an old iMac for Rev-A or Rev-B etc, is just a time waster.

I have settled upon the last three digits of the serial number. Easy to find, definitive whether the machine is on or off, OS9 or OS X, small to log and write, unique to each model change, and immeasurably helpful for compatibility with Disc Images you have, are creating or wish to create.

Any documentation I save which has different maintenance processes for different models, (such as resetting PMU), I can easily write the three letters next to the appropriate information. Now I can quickly see from a list, which parts of it apply to models actually in use at a particular site.

Fantastic to see the sites mentioned... <http://www.chipmunk.nl/klantenservice/applemodel.html> <http://www.mactracker.ca> and <http://www.apple.com/support/> with the instructions [Enter your serial number in the "About your support coverage" field at the bottom of the page. It will return your warranty/AppleCare status, and the model description of your specific Mac.]

Ideally we would do this lookup once as a technician (per machine in question) and then be able to easily link any found info on the Apple/Support site to it. Now, if you could type in kbibook, MMU, "power manager reset" and get precisely the instructions for that model, we'd all be happy. (Discounting of course the archaic requirement to enter kb.)

As a side note, cars with the same model name tend to be known by variances such as the "straight grille", "Lucas ignition", "bucket seats", "fuel injected", "walnut dash", or whatever _obvious_ feature differentiates them from others in the line. Regards Jeremy



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