DVD Ripping Question

--On January 23, 2006 12:11:15 PM -0800 Wendy Faulkner
<wendy.faulknergmail.com> wrote:

> Is there a better way to convert these DVD's to mov or dv format for
> editing? Is there something better than Quicktime Pro to use for
> selecting short segments out and saving them?

Have you tried MPEG Streamclip? I haven't tried it with VOB files, but I
have used it taking MOV and WMV (I have the Flip4Mac WMV importer for
QuickTime and MPEG Streamclip can use that) to DV format.

<http://www.alfanet.it/squared5/mpegstreamclip.html>

It has a batch mode that could be real handy for doing a bunch at a time
overnight (depending on drive space of course).

Cool - that one never turned up in all my searches on the topic.   Trying it now with a VOB File...

Thanks for the tip!




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On Jan 23, 2006, at 2:11 PM, Wendy Faulkner wrote:

> I typically use Mac the Ripper to pull the files to disk,. Most of
> the time Quicktime Pro won't recognize the vob files or says they are
> corrupt (though DVDplayer plays it fine.) I've tried various other
> freeware software with mixed success.

Are you using MTR 2.6.6? If yes, a donation to MTR will get you version
3.0 which is much better.

Terry

>From: Wendy Faulkner <wendy.faulknergmail.com>

>Is there a better way to convert these DVD's to mov or dv format for
>editing? Is there something better than Quicktime Pro to use for
>selecting short segments out and saving them?
>

I wonder if Final Cut Pro could be the solution here (?)

Paul

At 9:44 PM -0800 2006/01/23, Kevin van Haaren wrote:
>--On January 23, 2006 12:11:15 PM -0800 Wendy Faulkner
><wendy.faulknergmail.com> wrote:
>
>>Is there a better way to convert these DVD's to mov or dv format for
>>editing? Is there something better than Quicktime Pro to use for
>>selecting short segments out and saving them?
>
>Have you tried MPEG Streamclip? I haven't tried it with VOB files, but I
>have used it taking MOV and WMV (I have the Flip4Mac WMV importer for
>QuickTime and MPEG Streamclip can use that) to DV format.
>
><http://www.alfanet.it/squared5/mpegstreamclip.html>
>
>It has a batch mode that could be real handy for doing a bunch at a time
>overnight (depending on drive space of course).

        MPEG Streamclip works well for putting MPEG-2's from the TiVo
onto my Palm too. Using Apple MPEG4 w/ AAC audio, BSG episodes with
good video quality are in the 200-250mb range, which is quite decent
given that I could fit 7 "hour-long" shows onto a 2gb card. The Treo
650 with separately-downloaded AAC plug-in handles these with aplomb.

        Video iPods can handle H.264, which the Treo can't, but I'm
happy and everybody I've shown it to is impressed.

        The PSP has a better (larger) screen, but not a lot more
pixels for normal TV.


                                                Chris
--
Chris Pepper: <http://www.reppep.com/~pepper/>
Rockefeller University: <http://www.rockefeller.edu/>

I have a different, but related question: I want to take titles from
different DVD's and burn them to a new DVD, without recoding, with a
simple menu pointing to the start of the different titles. Can I do
this with iDVD? Is there another application that can do it?

Maurice
Utrecht, the Netherlands

On 23 Jan 2006, at 22:44 , Kevin van Haaren wrote:
> --On January 23, 2006 12:11:15 PM -0800 Wendy Faulkner
> <wendy.faulknergmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Is there a better way to convert these DVD's to mov or dv format for
>> editing? Is there something better than Quicktime Pro to use for
>> selecting short segments out and saving them?
>
> Have you tried MPEG Streamclip? I haven't tried it with VOB files,
> but I
> have used it taking MOV and WMV (I have the Flip4Mac WMV importer for
> QuickTime and MPEG Streamclip can use that) to DV format.
>
> <http://www.alfanet.it/squared5/mpegstreamclip.html>
>
> It has a batch mode that could be real handy for doing a bunch at a
> time
> overnight (depending on drive space of course).

Handbrake will rip from DVD to h.264

<http://www.macupdate.com/handbrake>

On 23 Jan 2006, at 20:11, Wendy Faulkner wrote:

> Is there a better way to convert these DVD's to mov or dv format for
> editing? Is there something better than Quicktime Pro to use for
> selecting short segments out and saving them?

To avoid degrading the quality of the pictures, which might occur due
to further compression cycles (you've gone through one possibly more
already), ideally you would edit the MPEG streams off the DVD and then
burn the sections you want back without any conversion.

I haven't a huge amount of experience of doing this, but it would
appear from some brief experimentation that MPEG StreamClip will open
VOB files then trim them, and save the trimmed file. Toast will then
burn this file as a DVD with no re-coding. SimpleMovieX will do a
similar thing. Unfortunately neither of these will edit MPEG frame
accurately, as they don't re-code the stream (accuracy is dependant on
the MPEG stream, MPEG StreamClip suggests it is usually half a second).
  However if you can cope with this level of accuracy then you will both
preserve the quality of the clip and it will be alot quicker as the
conversion between codecs is what takes the time.

<http://www.alfanet.it/squared5/mpegstreamclip.html>
<http://homepage.mac.com/getclockworks/SimpleMovieX/info.html>

--
Patrick Keene

I'm not burning straight back to DVD however.  I'm taking dozens of clips from numerous DVDs, and then combining them back and adding music etc to eventurally burn onto a disk.   So I need formats that iMovie or FCP will be able to handle. 


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Wendy Faulkner

> I have a different, but related question: I want to take titles from
> different DVD's and burn them to a new DVD, without recoding, with a
> simple menu pointing to the start of the different titles. Can I do
> this with iDVD? Is there another application that can do it?

I'm not sure what "recoding" is so this may not be what you want, but one
route is to extract clips from different DVDs and assemble them onto one
is--after having dealt with the legal issue, of course--rip the clips with
MacTheRipper, convert them to video streams with DVDxDV, edit them if
necessary in iMovie or Final Cut, assemble them in iDVD. At each step choose
settings that avoid compression or changing the aspect ratio.

Very handy for giving lectures on film.

If you want to mix clips with text and stills, however, PowerPoint has some
strong advantages. At least on some laptops PP presentations containing
video clips don't run well off of DVD data discs--you may have to copy them
to the hard drive.

Paul Brians
Professor of English
Director of Undergraduate Studies
Department of English
Washington State University
Pullman, WA 99164-2050
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/

Handbrake has worked great!  On all but one of my DVD's.   This particular DVD, whether I use Yade or Mac the Ripper (either full disc decode or main feature decode) and then Handbrake,  the only portion that ever gets converted to mp4 is the "intro" and not the main portion of the disc.  Has anyone ever seen this?
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Microsoft broke Volkswagen's world record:
VW made only 21,529,464 bugs.              
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On 26 Jan 2006, at 20:31 , Wendy Faulkner wrote:
> Handbrake has worked great! On all but one of my DVD's. This
> particular DVD, whether I use Yade or Mac the Ripper (either full
> disc decode or main feature decode) and then Handbrake, the only
> portion that ever gets converted to mp4 is the "intro" and not the
> main portion of the disc. Has anyone ever seen this?

Are you sure you are getting the right title? Sometimes DVDs are
arranged like this:

FBI Warning (unskipable title)
THX or Stuido intro (unskipable title)
Actual Movie (regular Title)

I usually avoid MacTheRipper and just rip in handbrake straight from
the DVD, choosing the appropriate title in Handbrake.

I generally only use MTR if I want an actual DVD copy, which most
times now I don't. I'd rather have a season of a TV show on 2 DVDs
than 6,


--
"Eureka," he said. "Going to have a bath then?"

I use Cinematize. http://www.miraizon.com/products/products.html

If you have unprotected DVD media, it's very simple using this program to grab the video you need.

RichL

The best app I've found for doing this kind of thing is DVDxDV (from LAMUG). It's quick, clean, it let's you select individual VOBS on a DVD and then let's you set an in/out point if you don't want to rip the whole track. It sells for a reasonable $25 ($85 for the PRO version, but the regular one is perfectly adequate for 90% of what one generally does in this vein). It will *not* decode a copy-protected DVD, but you can use MTR to do that, then use DVDxDV to convert the resulting files to FCP/FCE compabitible media.

On Sep 12, 2006, at 11:15 PM, edward224 wrote:

> The best app I've found for doing this kind of thing is DVDxDV
> (from LAMUG). It's quick, clean, it let's you select individual
> VOBS on a DVD and then let's you set an in/out point if you don't
> want to rip the whole track. It sells for a reasonable $25 ($85 for
> the PRO version, but the regular one is perfectly adequate for 90%
> of what one generally does in this vein). It will *not* decode a
> copy-protected DVD, but you can use MTR to do that, then use DVDxDV
> to convert the resulting files to FCP/FCE compabitible media.

I've wondered if DVDxDV can re-form the DVD without re-encoding the
individually re-cut files? I've been using MPEG Streamclip to import
the various .vob files that needed editing, then using TOAST Titanium
to re-make the DVD because I can customize the settings to not re-
encode the resulting files and thus not degrading the original any
further. Or does DVDxDV simply do a similar thing that MPEG
Streamclip does in allowing DVD files to be exported to another
format such as DV format and then importing into another editor, such
as FCP, for further additions or changes? In other words, is it
basically doing what MPEG Streamclip already does? Or is there more?

Jeffrey

Help! I need to rip clips from dvds (commercial dvds) to compile together and then burn onto dvd. Now i've found a method that works but is very time consuming and problematic- which is ImTOO DVD ripper to rip entire chapters to AVI, then CleanerXL to select the in/out points and convert to QuickTime movies. i then compile then in Adobe Premiere.

Anyone got any suggestions of dvd ripping software that you can rip specific chunks (by setting in/out points) straight from dvd?

thanks

Michelle

> Anyone got any suggestions of dvd ripping software that you can rip specific
> chunks (by setting in/out points) straight from dvd?

MPEG Streamclip
Handbrake
ffMpegX

D A V I D E M E R I C K

On Nov 8, 2006, at 6:32 PM, michelleobayda wrote:

> Anyone got any suggestions of dvd ripping software that you can rip
> specific chunks (by setting in/out points) straight from dvd?

I think Cinematize might be what you're looking for! :-)
You can find it here: http://www.miraizon.com/products/products.html

On Nov 9, 2006, at 1:17 PM, Marco wrote:

> On Nov 8, 2006, at 6:32 PM, michelleobayda wrote:
>
>> Anyone got any suggestions of dvd ripping software that you can rip
>> specific chunks (by setting in/out points) straight from dvd?
>
> I think Cinematize might be what you're looking for! :-)
> You can find it here: http://www.miraizon.com/products/products.html

I own this, but I like MPEG Steamclip better, along with Handbrake
and ffMpegX. It's also handy to have Toast Titanium, latest version,
because you can take the 'pieces' and put them back together without
re-encoding (which causes a noticeable loss in quality).

Jeffrey