What IMAP server did Mac OS X Server 10.1-2 use?

Not sure if this applies to 10.4, but it was written to migrage 10.1/.2 to
Cyrus on 10.3.

<http://www.afp548.com/articles/Panther/uwtocyrus.html>

Chris Pepper wrote:
> I need to move some UW IMAPd mail (mbox format) into the Cyrus
> server in 10.4.1, and I see Apple provides an option to migrate from
> 10.1-2, but I don't know if that means UW (mbox) or something entirely
> different.
>
> Does anyone here know?

The easiest thing to do is handle the migration using the IMAP protocol
itself using either your IMAP mail reader or a program like Mailsync to
do it automatically:

http://mailsync.sourceforge.net/

I've used mailsync for a number of migrations. It's a very smooth way to
manage the problem.

--Chris

Before Cyrus in 10.3, OS X Server apparently used "Apple Mail Service" which
I think was a successor to the mail server in their OS 9 server product,
AppleShare IP.

Sharepoints: Apple's Mail Service Ages Well in Jaguar
http://www.afp548.com/articles/editorial/sharepoints20020924.html

Upgrading from Mac OS X Server 10.2.8 to 10.3.3
http://www.afp548.com/articles/Panther/upgradenotes.html

Mac OS X Server Mail Service Administration (For Version 10.3 or Later)
Converting the Mail Store and Database From an Earlier Version (pg. 36)
http://manuals.info.apple.com/en/MacOSXSrvr10.3_MailServiceAdminGuide.pdf

This person's blog entry (must be referring to 10.2 Server, given the date)
says "It stores every email in a txt file with a long number and a .data
extension."
http://jon.mac-consultant.com/2003/08/apple-mail-service-server

At 5:09 PM -0700 2005/06/20, Christopher Smith wrote:
>http://mailsync.sourceforge.net/
>
>I've used mailsync for a number of migrations. It's a very smooth way to
>manage the problem.

        Thanks for the pointer; I've listed it for my users.

        Building it on Mac OS X seems nontrivial. The instructions
don't mention Mac OS X, and it requires c-client (which requires a
make argument, Mac OS X/Darwin not listed; FreeBSD failed when I
tried it). The c-client (UW IMAPd) instructions require openssl in
/usr/local/bin, and I don't feel like installing another openssl or
dropping the required symlinks.

        I'm going to punt to users to handle in their mail clients. I
could probably get this going myself, but don't want to have to go
through the whole password changing dance on old & new servers for
each user to migrate them, and I'm not going to talk my users through
building this, or running it on the new (Tiger) server.


                                                Chris
PS-I thought this would be generally easy in normal IMAP clients.
Eudora & Entourage just can't do it. Mail.app can do it, but you have
to cache all the old mailboxes locally first, or it creates empty
mailboxes on the old server. Thunderbird complains (twice per
mailbox? I never let it run far enough to find out) for one of my
servers, so that's a no-go. Disappointing.
--
Chris Pepper: <http://www.reppep.com/~pepper/>
Rockefeller University: <http://www.rockefeller.edu/>

At 9:58 PM -0400 2005/06/20, Wilcox, Curtis wrote:
>Before Cyrus in 10.3, OS X Server apparently used "Apple Mail Service" which
>I think was a successor to the mail server in their OS 9 server product,
>AppleShare IP.

        Ah, I'd known that, and forgotten. Thanks for the reminder --
I made some progress on the server-side migration by tweaking
<http://acs-wiki.andrew.cmu.edu/twiki/pub/Cyrus/MboxCyrusMigration/>
for Tiger Server's Cyrus, but eventually gave up, and decided I have
few enough users that we can each just do it individually on the
client side.


                                                Chris
--
Chris Pepper: <http://www.reppep.com/~pepper/>
Rockefeller University: <http://www.rockefeller.edu/>

On Jun 20, 2005, at 6:05 PM, Chris Pepper wrote:

> I need to move some UW IMAPd mail (mbox format) into the
> Cyrus server in 10.4.1, and I see Apple provides an option to migrate
> from 10.1-2, but I don't know if that means UW (mbox) or something
> entirely different.
>
> Does anyone here know?

My client's 10.1 server shows a sendmail binary, but no binaries for
imapd or postfix. Our 10.2 servers might not be reliable to check,
since CommuniGate Pro moves default binaries out of the way. But if
you can pop me some more potential server daemons to check, I'll be
glad to look them up.

Best,
Jeff

At 9:37 AM -0700 6/21/05, Chris Pepper wrote:
> Building it on Mac OS X seems nontrivial. The instructions
>don't mention Mac OS X, and it requires c-client (which requires a
>make argument, Mac OS X/Darwin not listed; FreeBSD failed when I
>tried it).

UW treats Mac OS X as a UNIX variant, and lists the recognized
variants in its Makefile.

># osx Mac OS X
># oxp Mac OS X with Pluggable Authentication Modules (PAM)

--
Andrew Laurence
atlaurenuci.edu