Campaign to make iPods greener

Why not rag on the millions of flashlights that use disposable battaries that are sold every year? You pick VERY strange battles.

On 3/24/05 4:31 PM, "irenetrilliumwoods.com" <irenetrilliumwoods.com>
wrote:

> I realize that iPods are being singled out because of their ubiquity,
> their high profile (just look at all the iPod accessories!), and
> because they're a succinct symbol of the incredible proliferation of
> electronic gizmos (and their waste) since the first transistor radios
> became affordable.
>
> I'd love to see Macintosh proactively take the high ground by
> committing to making green as cool as white.

I was very amused to see the protesters for this during macworld expo..

Wearing plastic ponchos...
And nylon/plastic sneakers...
Clothes chock full of nice toxic dye...
Fun hair colors...
Getting into an SUV and a big cadillac...

I'm not saying that Apple shouldn't be more environmentally proactive where
possible, but when the protestors are contributing to the problem as much,
if not more than what they protest, the "remove the beam in thine own eye
before casting out the mote in mine" line comes to mind.

--
John C. Welch Writer/Analyst
Bynkii.com Mac and other opinions
jwelchbynkii.com

> I'm one of the last three people in the US who have not yet bought an
> iPod. I'm really concerned about the environmental issues addressed at
>
> http://www.thegreenguide.com/ia/ipod.mhtml

While it's not as simple a matter as, say, changing a flashlight
battery, the batteries in the iPod *can* be relatively easily replaced
-- several vendors provide batteries and services.

And I believe Apple does have a program in place to dispose of old electronic components.

http://www.apple.com/environment/recycling/


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On 24-03-2005 23:31:26, Irene Bensinger wrote:
>I'm one of the last three people in the US who have not yet bought an
>iPod. I'm really concerned about the environmental issues addressed at
>
>http://www.thegreenguide.com/ia/ipod.mhtml

Funny that they don't mention the bigger issue, which is that the battery needs to be
replaced at all. In the quest for higher-capacity batteries, this seems to have been
largely ignored, and we're ending up with batteries (not just for iPods, but laptops,
mobile phones etc.) that don't last more than two years.

Not to mention that there don't seem to be any standards for battery sizes etc., which
makes replacing them expensive, if possible at all, so all too often you end up replacing
a device that works perfectly because the battery is dead.

Harro de Jong

On Mar 25, 2005, at 10:52 AM, hjongtriview.nl wrote:

> Not to mention that there don't seem to be any standards for battery
> sizes etc., which
> makes replacing them expensive, if possible at all, so all too often
> you end up replacing
> a device that works perfectly because the battery is dead.

I agree with this comment, but would like to mention that here in
Toronto, Canada I was able to find a company that would replace the
cells in the battery of my Lombard G3 when it died, at a savings of
about US$100 over the cheapest replacement I could find.

Granted, this is my spare laptop, mostly used for testing new OS
installs and software, and I'm not sure I'd go this route with my
primary machine. Besides, it takes about a week to get the rebuild
done, rather than just a trip to the retail store.

So far, the rebuilt battery has held up very well,

Roger
Roger Henriques
rdh at rhen dot com

Whenever I buy an electr[on]ic device, I select one using standard AA
or AAA [rechargeable] batteries.
(and I grrrmmbll if there is none fulfilling my need!)

--On March 24, 2005 2:31:26 PM -0800 irenetrilliumwoods.com wrote:

> I'm one of the last three people in the US who have not yet bought an
> iPod. I'm really concerned about the environmental issues addressed at
>
> http://www.thegreenguide.com/ia/ipod.mhtml

Apple has addressed the 3rd point on the list. You can now take an iPod to
any Apple Store for recycling and get a 10% discount (I hope other
retailers get the opportunity to match that discount for recycling.)

I'm not sure the other 2 points will really be addressed. I'm not convinced
the 2nd point, "Design iPods so batteries can be easily and affordably
replaced" is really better for the environment. It would be if everyone
that replaced batteries would properly dispose of the old batteries, but
most people I know would just chuck them in the trash.

Kevin