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[Hall, Robert]Robert Hall (apparently) - 01:19pm Mar 21, 2005 PST
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I have been using Address Book version 4.2.6 originally by Jim Leitch
then taken over by Jim Smith since Leitch first wrote it. I have been
using this application since 1998. It is the best address book
application I have found and I have become totally dependent on it.

However it was written for OS 9, works well in Classic and is no
longer supported.

Does anyone who remembers and perhaps used that application know of a
comparable Mac X application.

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baltwo (apparently) - Jan 31, 2006 4:55 pm (#8 Total: 27)  

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On 01/29/06, DeeGee wrote:
>Too bad, Address Book was and still is a GREAT application, as long as we're able to run classic applications in OSX. It's still a winner!

Export your current Classic Address Book file to word processor, set line and
field delimiters to tab, and set record delimiter to CR. Import the file as
text into Apple's Address Book, clicking on each do not import item to set
headers as desired. Worked here.

George Burley - Jul 13, 2006 5:23 pm (#9 Total: 27)  

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I too am still using Address Book 4.2 and would be willing to contribute towards a version compatable with Mac OS X. I'm also still using ClarisDraw and think it's perfect for what I use it for. Stuck in the Mac past at 10.4.7/Mac OS 9.

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antonyrex - Jul 29, 2006 1:55 pm (#10 Total: 27)  

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I am so upset that I can no longer use my Classic system on my MacBook. I have 1976 addresses in the Late Mr Leitch's address book. I am dyslectic and do not understand what Baltwo means when he says export to your word processor.

HOW? I have Word and Appleworks. Then how does one do it? "Export your current Classic Address Book file to word processor, set line andfield delimiters to tab, and set record delimiter to CR. Import the file as text into Apple's Address Book, clicking on each do not import item to set headers as desired"

PLEASE HELP. THANK YOU

Antony

Randy B. Singer (apparently) - Jul 31, 2006 11:42 am (#11 Total: 27)  

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>>I am so upset that I can no longer use my Classic system on my MacBook.

You might want to check out SheepShaver, which allows you to run "PowerPC
Classic MacOS software on your computer" under OS X:

http://www.gibix.net/dokuwiki/en:projects:sheepshaver

http://www.gibix.net/dokuwiki/en:projects:sheepshaver:help:faq



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Alexander Hoffman (apparently) - Aug 9, 2006 1:51 pm (#12 Total: 27)  

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>I am so upset that I can no longer use my Classic system on my MacBook.
>I have 1976 addresses in the Late Mr Leitch's address book. I am
>dyslectic and do not understand what Baltwo means when he says
>export to your word processor.

I don't know the program, but I can help you with this, I think. It
is worth using Apple's address book, as many other applications can
read from it. That can be very convenient.

>HOW? I have Word and Appleworks. Then how does one do it?
>"Export your current Classic Address Book file to word processor,

1) In your old address book program, you need to find the "export"
command. It's often in the file menu, but not always. So, export the
data, and remember where you saved it. Quite out of your old program.

2) Make a copy of the exported file. Just in case. (command-d in the Finder)

3) Go into word, go to the file menu and select "open". Find and open
the file you saved/exported. You might need to choose "all readable
documents" from "Enabled:" popup menu.

> set line andfield delimiters to tab

You are going to do a find&replace stuff for this and the next step.
You are going to change the file so it can be understood when you
import it into Apple's Address Book.

The exported files will have all your data in it, and it also will
have some characters or something that indicate when something takes
more than one line, or how to separate a first name from a last name
from a phone number from a...from a...from a...

4) So, you need to visually scan the file and find what separate
different "fields." (A field is one type of data. First name is a
field. Zip code is probably a field. Each box that you fill in when
entering data is a field.) There will probably be something between
someone's first and last name, or between state and zip code. Find it
on screen, highlight and copy it. It might just look like a space or
some weird character(s).

5) Go to the Edit menu and choose "Replace". Paste into the "Find
what:" box whatever you had copied. (You might not be able to select
paste from the edit menu, but if you copied you will be able to use
command-v to paste.)

6) put the cursor in the "replace with:" box and type "^t" (without
quotes, of course). (The ^ symbol is shift-6.) "^t" means tab for
word in find and replace boxes. You can't just hit the tab key,
because that takes you to the next box, so you enter ^t instead.

7) Hit the "replace all" button.

8) Keep hitting "yes" and "ok" buttons until it stops popping up
dialog boxes and you just see the find and replace box you were
using. Hit the "cancel" button to make it go away.

> and set record delimiter to CR.

You are going to do the same thing again, but this time find what the
export files has between records (a record is a set of data, like
Bob's address book entry data, Sue's address books entry data or you
brother's address book entry data).

9) Visually scan the file to find the the end of a record/the
beginning of another. Highlight and copy whatever is between them.

10) Choose replace from the edit menu, again. Paste into the "find
what" box, again.

11) Put "^p" into the "replace with" box.

12) Hit "replace all."

13) Keep hitting "yes" and "ok" buttons until it stops popping up
dialog boxes and you just see the find and replace box you were
using. Hit the "cancel" button to make it go away.

14) Save your export file.

> Import the file as text into Apple's Address Book, clicking on each
>do not import item to set headers as desired"

15) Load Apple's address book program (in the applications folder. It
might even be in your dock (Brown, with a white symbol).

16) Go to the File menu, go down to "import" and choose "text file..."

17) Choose the export file you saved from word.

Next is the only complicated step. The earlier stuff might seem
weird, but only because they are new to you. This next step makes me
slow way down each time I do it. Don't worry about it seeming
bizarre. In fact, the very fact that you are new to this might serve
you better, as you will be more careful automatically.

So, you should be looking at this weird dialog box. There's a whole
bunch of "Do not import" and some odd data. Address Book doesn't know
which field is which. So, it is showing you a complete record and
asking you what each field is. You will see a first name, last name,
and all that other stuff. In the middle of bottom of the dialog box,
there should be a pair of triangles pointing left and right. They
enable you to go to the next record, or back to the previous record,
like turning the page forward or back through each address book entry.

18) UN-check the ignore first card box.

19) For each field of data listed, click on the words "Do not import"
and select the type of data it is (which field it is). Make sure that
you do all of them, scrolling down if you need to.

20) Hit the right triangle to make sure that more records/pages look right.

21) Hit the OK button.

Ta-da!!

For an experienced person, five minutes, tops. For someone who is new
to this, less than 30.

Let me know if you have any problems. Nothing above can do permanent
damage. All of it can be undone or redone.

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kkm46 - Aug 10, 2006 11:27 am (#13 Total: 27)  

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HOW? I have Word and Appleworks. Then how does one do it?


When I switched from my Appleworks Address Book to Mac OS X Address Book, I used a utility called Address Book Importer and it worked very well. There were only 3 or 4 entries that I had to fix. You can find it here: <http://homepage.mac.com/sroy/addressbookimporter/>

Kathy

Junior Simmons - Oct 30, 2006 8:50 pm (#14 Total: 27)  

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I am another who like Address Book. I want it for system 10. Why doesn't someone do it?

Jay jay - Apr 18, 2007 6:04 am (#15 Total: 27)  

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I guess I'm just one more person who's stuck on that Address Book program by Jim Leitch.

Any more current information on this program, which I dearly love? (I did put my material on Apple's Address Book, and it's not nearly as good as our old one!!)

I hope someone out there can re-do this for the geniuses who brought us OSX without the ability to run all the software we've purchased for the last 15 years!

scott136 (apparently) - Apr 18, 2007 12:09 pm (#16 Total: 27)  

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Amen.

I also tried Mail Factory and went back to Address Book. Nothing
touches it.

John C. Welch (apparently) - Apr 18, 2007 1:43 pm (#17 Total: 27)  

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On 4/18/07 08:04 AM, "Jay jay" <jaytovalum.bu.edu> wrote:

> I guess I'm just one more person who's stuck on that Address Book program by
> Jim Leitch.
>
> Any more current information on this program, which I dearly love? (I did put
> my material on Apple's Address Book, and it's not nearly as good as our old
> one!!)
>
> I hope someone out there can re-do this for the geniuses who brought us OSX
> without the ability to run all the software we've purchased for the last 15
> years!

So Apple is supposed to guarantee that every piece of software written since
1992 runs perfectly in OS X forever?

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h_sundt (apparently) - Apr 19, 2007 5:36 pm (#18 Total: 27)  

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I moved to Intel and AddressBook, ( System 9), is one of my most
painful loses.
It did stuff well. Try PRINTING an address book from Filemaker near as
easily.
I am sorry the designer died and the fellow who took over can't really
do more. It was a solid utility for me for years. Just wanted to put my
2cents in on this.
(I used WordPerfect 3.5e to the day I bought my IntelMac and then moved
to Neo Office.... hey, you don't get a new wife every 6 years if the old
one ain't broke!)

Randall Kardon - Apr 19, 2007 5:36 pm (#19 Total: 27)  

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I guess I'm just one more person who's stuck on that Address Book program by Jim Leitch. Any more current information on this program


Jim died many years ago and a programmer friend took over basic duties for a while. I too was a registered user of the app, communicated with the new programmer shortly after Jim's death and was told that Leitch's mostly commentless spaghetti code made it near-impossible for development to continue.

It was a cool app for its time, but was pretty limited compared to modern apps. I like Address Book just fine.

Lewis Butler (apparently) - Apr 20, 2007 5:03 am (#20 Total: 27)  

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On 19-Apr-2007, at 18:36, Randall Kardon wrote:
> Jim died many years ago and a programmer friend took over basic
> duties for a while. I too was a registered user of the app,
> communicated with the new programmer shortly after Jim's death and
> was told that Leitch's mostly commentless spaghetti code made it
> near-impossible for development to continue.

Seems if he is not able to continue the application, the sensible
thing to do is release the source code as an open-source project
under GPL or CC. let other people sort out the code and move the app
to OS X.

I mean, it's better than letting it stagnate.

Randy B. Singer (apparently) - Apr 20, 2007 5:03 am (#21 Total: 27)  

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On Apr 19, 2007, at 5:36 PM, Harald Sundt wrote:
> (I used WordPerfect 3.5e to the day I bought my IntelMac and then moved
> to Neo Office.... hey, you don't get a new wife every 6 years if the old
> one ain't broke!)

There is software for Intel-based Macs that allows you to run an
actual classic version of the Mac OS under OS X. And its free!

Sheepshaver
http://gwenole.beauchesne.info/projects/sheepshaver/

However, getting all of the software components together and
installing Sheepshaver is a bit like participating in a scavenger hunt.

The WordPerfect/Mac discussion forum on Yahoo Groups provides a
complete and easy to use installer for Sheepshaver in their files
section. (You must join the group to access the files section.
Joining is free and you can unsubscribe at any time.) The
Sheepshaver installer there includes an installation of WordPerfect/Mac!
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wordperfectmac/

Once you join the WP/Mac discussion group, go to the Links section
and look for the
SheepShaver & Basilisk folder. Then download SheepShaver-WordPerfect
Install (2). This is a free installer for SheepShaver and WordPerfect/
Mac. Instructions are included.

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bozone (apparently) - Apr 20, 2007 8:59 am (#22 Total: 27)  

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Randall Kardon wrote:
> I guess I'm just one more person who's stuck on that Address Book program
> by Jim Leitch. Any more current information on this program
>
>
>
> Jim died many years ago and a programmer friend took over basic duties for a while. I too was a registered user of the app, communicated with the new programmer shortly after Jim's death and was told that Leitch's mostly commentless spaghetti code made it near-impossible for development to continue.
>
> It was a cool app for its time, but was pretty limited compared to modern apps. I like Address Book just fine.
> --
>
>
I could almost agree, but I really took the time to learn to use
Leitch's Address Book and its many features. I did write Leitch and was
a registered user. I haven't found a suitable replacement for all the
features I used. I would take off and leave the country for over a month
each year. Printing out a 1/4 page sized phonebook new each year was a
big help.

There were other programs in the early days that I don't see today but
would find useful. Two come to mind. What was that menu navigation thing
that would return you to the last item selected in an alphabetical menu
rather than to the top of the menu? Right now I am inserting ads into a
form and every placement has to be scrolled down to. It's fine in the As
and Bs, but a real pain down in the Ws.

I also used the phone utility, I think it was called ApplePhone, where
the mik and speakers on the computers became the telephone headset and a
dialpad came up on the screen when a call came in or when you wanted to
call out. Saved a lot of time with that thing.

I look to see if any of these are available occasionally. I'm sure we
all do fine without such things but they were great when available.

jack367 - Apr 24, 2007 12:11 pm (#23 Total: 27)  

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Moving on from OS 8 and 9 legacy programs...and speaking of Address Book utilities, are there any third-party apps or plug-ins that work with the OS X built in Address Book to parse the typical contact fields from an address "block" as typically used in e-mail and automagically paste them into a new Address Book contact record?

In the Windows world, there was such a product called "Address Grabber" where you could select the "contact info" block text typically used in business emails (name, title, phone, fax, email, addy etc).", right mouse click to send to AG, which would open a dialog window with the various contact fields "guessed" as best as possible, similar to the OCR parsers on similar business card scanner products. Once the info was OK, the parsed results would be pushed into a new Address Book card or equivalent (e.g. Palm Desktop, Outlook contacts etc).

I would guess that probably something like this could be scripted in the Automator or Konfabulator or something for those with those sorts of teh mad skillz, but I'm looking for a third party mac solution out of the box that does this.

Anyone heard of anything like that? It was incredibly useful, since no one, especially from the Windows world, uses the apparently preferred cross-platform solution for such things (V-cards...nobody can ever seem to open them or they get corrupted in the mac -> windows email file conversions).

Lorin Rivers (apparently) - Apr 25, 2007 6:09 am (#24 Total: 27)  

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On Apr 24, 2007, at 2:11 PM, jack367 wrote:

> Moving on from OS 8 and 9 legacy programs...and speaking of Address
> Book utilities, are there any third-party apps or plug-ins that
> work with the OS X built in Address Book to parse the typical
> contact fields from an address "block" as typically used in e-mail
> and automagically paste them into a new Address Book contact record?

Not to feed the "gee, I miss Mac OS 9" fire, but there was an
exceptionally cool Apple-supplied utility called ADD (Apple Data
Detector) that could parse text in context and do stuff like "add to
address book" in a contextual menu when you had an address selected.

I would LOVE to have this in Mac OS X. I used it constantly.

dano (apparently) - Apr 25, 2007 11:45 am (#25 Total: 27)  

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At 12:11 PM -0700 4/24/07, jack367 wrote:
>Moving on from OS 8 and 9 legacy programs...and speaking of Address
>Book utilities, are there any third-party apps or plug-ins that work
>with the OS X built in Address Book to parse the typical contact
>fields from an address "block" as typically used in e-mail and
>automagically paste them into a new Address Book contact record?

SBook 5, by Simson Garfinkel*, is an address book utility that can do
what you describe, or at least it can do something very similar.
SBook will read and write to Apple's Address Book, and it will merge
addresses to or from AB as well. I found it a few years ago when I
was looking for a utility that would work with AB to clean up entries
and duplicates.

<http://www.simson.net/ref/sbook5/>

There are versions for 10.2, 10.3 and 10.4, both PPC and Intel. It is
small (the download is 2.2 MB) and extremely fast. Unfortunately for
us users, the SBook project has been abandoned. Fortunately though,
the source code - including the AI engine - has been open sourced so
anybody can work with it or on it. (I hope someone reading this picks
it up and continues development for Leopard.)


*By the way, if you think you've heard of Simson Garfinkel, then you
probably have. He was for years a writer and journalist for Wired
(both print and online), as well as a book author. After getting his
PhD in CS at MIT a few years ago he is now a professor.

Nik (apparently) - Apr 25, 2007 11:45 am (#26 Total: 27)  

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On 4/25/07 7:09 AM, "Lorin Rivers" <lriversmac.com> wrote:

> Not to feed the "gee, I miss Mac OS 9" fire, but there was an
> exceptionally cool Apple-supplied utility called ADD (Apple Data
> Detector) that could parse text in context and do stuff like "add to
> address book" in a contextual menu when you had an address selected.
>
> I would LOVE to have this in Mac OS X. I used it constantly.

You may want to try the CalendarCreator and ContactCreator services from QI
Software. They provide similar functionality via the Services menu.

<http://supertart.com/qisoftware/index.html>

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jack367 - Apr 27, 2007 6:01 am (#27 Total: 27)  

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Thank you for the suggestions, Dano and Nik. I agree with you as well Lorin that this address database parsing functionality somehow ought to be built into OS X. Maybe in Leopard? :-)



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