Migration help for switchers?

I recently helped a friend and the worst problem was moving mail from
Outlook to Eudora. It turned out that since Outlook used an IMAP
server, the easiest approach was to use Outlook to copy mail to a
mail account on mac.com and then download it to a Eudora client on
the Mac. from mac.com


[In theory, if Outlook was really picking up from an IMAP server, you could just point Eudora or another IMAP-capable client at the same IMAP server and get the mail like that. -Adam]


Just be careful to do it in reasonable-sized batches. It was
remarkably straightforward.

Nick Pappas

Campbell said:

>On the whole, he's really happy with it, but he has had issues
>migrating data such as emails (Eudora) and addresses from
>his previous windows and linux systems.

If you are going to be exporting from Eudora on a PC to Eudora on a
Macintosh,see:
http://www.eudora.com/techsupport/kb/1644hq.html

Also see:

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=106778

Check out:

Emailchemy
http://www.weirdkid.com/products/emailchemy/index.html


Randy B. Singer
Co-Author of: The Macintosh Bible (4th, 5th and 6th editions)

Routine OS X Maintenance and Generic Troubleshooting
http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html

On 21 Feb 2005, at 11:51 :21, Campbell wrote:
> I recently recruited a new convert to the Mac camp (G5 iMac).
> On the whole, he's really happy with it, but he has had issues
> migrating data such as emails (Eudora) and addresses from
> his previous windows and linux systems.

That's odd, Eudora uses mbox format, so the only step to "converting"
between a unix or PC based mbox is to translate the line feeds. FTPing
the files in text mode should take care of that, or there are very
simple commands to do it for you.

cat unixmboxfile | tr "\n" "^M" > macmboxfile

for example. Converting the line ending between a PC format and a Mac
format is slightly different:

cat windowsfile | tr -d '\10' > macfile.txt

(I think this is right, I don't have any PC files to test with) but it
might be easier to simply get TextWrangler and tell it to save the file
with Mac line endings.

<http://www.barebones.com/products/textwrangler/index.shtml>

then simply copy the file into the eudora folder.

as for addresses, that's a different issue. If it's a Eudora
addressbook, just change the line endings. I believe the file formats
are the same. Anything else you will need to export the data and then
figure out how to import it.

My wife migrated from a PC to a Mac a couple of years ago when she
changed jobs (and moved to a Mac only shop---a mid-sized business
consultancy, no less). Anyway, most of the files (Office documents and
the like) moved over effortlessly with an external HD.

The one gotcha was moving Outlook email. She had an accumulated
archive of about 5 years worth of client interactions which we needed
to move. So, I thought moving the email through an IMAP server (since
her new firm uses IMAP for email) would be the logical thing to do.
The problem was that though Outlook gives you no indication that it is
doing this, all attachments get converted to some proprietary format
when stored locally. Worse, multiple attachments to a single email
were in actuality attached as a single attachment file in that
proprietary format. So when we moved the emails across to the Mac, all
of the attachments were in some binary file that the Mac was unable to
read (no longer .doc, .ppt or the like).

We only got around this problem by using a program from Little Machines
(www.littlemachines.com) called Outlook2Mac. This program also had the
added benefit of successfully exporting her contact and agenda
information.

Tn

At 06:15 AM 02/22/2005 -0800, Google Kreme wrote:
>That's odd, Eudora uses mbox format, so the only step to "converting"
>between a unix or PC based mbox is to translate the line feeds.

That's generally true, but there are a number of little things to deal
with. Putting the files in the right place with the right names is one --
mailbox names under Windows must have a .mbx extensions, and mail folders
must have .fol extensions. In theory you could leave these coming to a Mac,
but it would look ugly, and would not work for the special mailboxes In,
Out, Junk, Trash. You throw away the .toc files, just as you throw away the
resource fork going the other way, resulting in both cases in loss of
status data on messages. Probably a few other things -- it's been a year or
so since I did it.

If emailman.com has a link to instructions -- I think that's where I
started -- then they are worth reading and using, despite the basic
simplicity and the openness of the format.

Edward Reid

On 23 Feb 2005, at 17:22 :25, Edward Reid wrote:
> You throw away the .toc files, just as you throw away the resource
> fork going the other way,

No, you don't. You translate the line feeds and tell Eudora to use the
.toc files so you don't lose that info, and so your mbox flat 7bit
files don't turn into forked binary files.


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