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How are you managing your headphones/headsets? Jeff Porten (apparently) - 03:25pm Feb 15, 2005 PSTvia emailBeen dealing with a truly annoying problem recently, and the discussion
on microphones made me think it might be worth opening it up here.
I have two devices that I routinely use with a headset -- my PowerBook
and my cell phone. Those of you with iPods might have *three* such
devices; in my case, my phone is my MP3 player.
Right now, I have 3 headsets I use:
1) a standard set of Sony earbuds for the laptop.
2) a custom set of earbuds-with-mic for the Sony Ericsson.
3) a Jabra Bluetooth headset, which works with both.
This was cumbersome, but okay, until the SE earbuds started failing. I
now get phone calls and music in glorious mono, with sometime failure
in BOTH ears. In a fit of outrageous stupidity, SE has decided to stop
selling this separately; it can be replaced under warranty (if I had a
time machine), otherwise the only way to get a new pair is to buy a new
$700 phone. Their cheapest alternative is a headset that sticks a
radio in the middle -- which I'd be fine with, but that one connects to
the phone port rather than the 2.5 mm jack, which would render my belt
clip useless. (This clip is what ships with the phone; remember, this
is outrageous stupidity.)
The Bluetooth headset is still an option, but it's also in glorious
mono, plus there's the charming problem that once it talks to one
device it's completely deaf to the other until I re-pair it. (Tech
call to Jabra scheduled for tomorrow, since it's supposed to be able to
work with seven devices.)
Now that I'm using my laptop for Skype phone calls, it's becoming more
of an issue that I need two-way sound transmission to all of my
gadgetry. The ideal, which I don't think exists, would be a Bluetooth
stereo headset/mic with a button to cycle from one device to the other
on the fly. (One nice advantage of Bluetooth is that you can take a
break and not miss a minute. It's nice to step outside of Starbucks
for a smoke and continue listening to NPR.) I'd take wired if I had
to, but I can't see how that would work, because it would have to have
a 2.5 mm jack AND a dual 3.5 mm jack for the laptop.
Or there's the other alternative -- one night after a sleep-deprived
heavy work week, I was in tech-geek problem solving mode and started to
think how I might solve this problem by adding an extra set of ears to
hold both headsets at once. I actually followed this train of thought
for 10 seconds or so before I remembered that my head can't be
upgraded.
Earlier today I found this site
< http://www.skullcandy.com/link.php?urlLocation=link> which has a gizmo
that's close to what I want -- but at the cost of destroying my belt
clip again.
Anyone with better ideas?
Best,
Jeff
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Matthew Hall
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Chuan
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Feb 16, 2005 12:30 pm
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Re: How are you managing your headphones/headsets?
On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:25:22 -0800, Jeff Porten <civitan  jeffporten.com> wrote:
> Been dealing with a truly annoying problem recently, and the discussion
> on microphones made me think it might be worth opening it up here.
>
> I have two devices that I routinely use with a headset -- my PowerBook
> and my cell phone. Those of you with iPods might have *three* such
> devices; in my case, my phone is my MP3 player.
I suppose a 2nd Bluetooth Jabra headset would work. So that each
headset could be paired to a different machine. The Jabra headsets are
designed to be wearable in either ear. You can wear both at the same
time.
It doesn't solve the "mono" problem.
--
Chik fcchuan  gmail.com
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Jeff Porten (apparently)
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Feb 16, 2005 2:57 pm
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Re: How are you managing your headphones/headsets?
On Feb 16, 2005, at 2:30 PM, Chuan wrote:
> I suppose a 2nd Bluetooth Jabra headset would work. So that each
> headset could be paired to a different machine. The Jabra headsets are
> designed to be wearable in either ear. You can wear both at the same
> time.
With the added feature that it would eradicate all of those annoying
gaps in celibacy that can complicate life so much.
Or maybe that's a bug.
Jeff
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Bob Wolfgang
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Feb 17, 2005 7:37 am
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I also have had the same topic in mind for awhile and was wishing for a stereo, bluetooth solution that would be compatible with:
a. SE P800 3G , BT
b. iBook (500MHz)
c. iPod
d. PC laptop w/ BT it exists, (but currently out of my budget)
http://www.blueant.com.au/bthp_a.htm
Haven't found a review, hoping to find one for a first-hand experience. [What about the i-Phono? I don't have it any more to test if it will do all the things you want. -Adam] < http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07811>
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brian_hall (apparently)
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Feb 22, 2005 7:15 am
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Wow! I have had the same problems with my Jabra BT 250. I picked it up for
my Treo 650, but I want to use it with X-Lite and the PowerBook (we are in
the process of moving to a Asterisk based linux VOIP PBX).
Seems that I need to pair it all the time, and I have *never* been able to
get it to show up in the sound control panel of the Mac. I have been able
to use it with the Treo though (good thing, since the palmOne retail store
sold it to me!)
Would appreciate any tips on getting it to work with the PowerBook.
The Jabra web site was mute on the topic.
Brian
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Jeff Porten (apparently)
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Feb 22, 2005 11:41 am
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Re: How are you managing your headphones/headsets?
On Feb 22, 2005, at 9:15 AM, Brian Hall wrote:
> Wow! I have had the same problems with my Jabra BT 250.
Huh. Jabra's official response to me was that my problems were because
I'm using a first-generation BT200. Presumably that would not apply to
you, so one wonders if they were just trying to get me off the phone.
> Seems that I need to pair it all the time, and I have *never* been
> able to
> get it to show up in the sound control panel of the Mac. I have been
> able
> to use it with the Treo though (good thing, since the palmOne retail
> store
> sold it to me!)
According to the Jabra FAQs, both models can pair with up to seven
devices. So your first step should be to try to pair it with the Mac.
Two steps I can suggest: 1) do this immediately after removing it from
the charger; this is apparently a reset state that doesn't obtain when
you've already used it. 2) delete the pairing with the phone FIRST. I
had no problems pairing it with my Mac under those conditions.
And obviously, make sure your OS is upgraded. Early versions of Mac
Bluetooth did not support headsets.
Best,
Jeff
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kevinv (apparently)
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Feb 24, 2005 11:56 am
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Re: How are you managing your headphones/headsets?
--On February 22, 2005 6:15:25 AM -0800 Brian Hall
<brian_hall  markspace.com> wrote:
> Wow! I have had the same problems with my Jabra BT 250. I picked it up for
> my Treo 650, but I want to use it with X-Lite and the PowerBook (we are in
> the process of moving to a Asterisk based linux VOIP PBX).
>
> Seems that I need to pair it all the time, and I have *never* been able to
> get it to show up in the sound control panel of the Mac. I have been able
> to use it with the Treo though (good thing, since the palmOne retail store
> sold it to me!)
My Jabra BT 250 worked fine on my old PowerBook. I did have to download
and install the Bluetooth Firmware updater from Apple to get it to work,
but other than that no problems.
I've paired it with my mini but haven't done any real testing with it yet
other than testing initial sound transmission and volume control buttons on
the headset. Both worked.
Kevin
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butchfag (apparently)
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Feb 24, 2005 11:56 am
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On Tue, 22 Feb 2005 06:15:25 -0800, Brian Hall wrote:
> Wow! I have had the same problems with my Jabra BT 250.
Hey Brian,
I bought a Jabra BT250 based on a suggestion in the 2004 Holiday guide
from this fine list. I initially had similar problems to what you
describe so I wrote to the person who suggested the headset and he
indicated that he used an external bluetooth adapter and that he had
had to update the firmware to get the headset to work. That set off
some alarms for me and I had a look at software update and low and
behold there was indeed an update for bluetooth ! I installed the
update and then deleted the pairing, reinitialised the headset (hold
the phone button down for 8 seconds or so as described in the manual
that comes with) and presto it appears in the sound control panel and
is available to my apps !
If you're having trouble getting it to appear in sound panel or to
your apps, make sure you press the connect button on the headset which
will put it into active instead of standbay mode.
Good luck,
Christopher Appell
European Market
FreeRecruiting.com
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juandesant
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Feb 24, 2005 11:56 am
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Brian Hall wrote:
"Seems that I need to pair it all the time, and I have *never* been able to get it to show up in the sound control panel of the Mac. I have been able to use it with the Treo though (good thing, since the palmOne retail store sold it to me!)"
Remember that not only Mac OS X has to be upgraded, your Bluetooth adapter has to support this feature, too. Old Conceptronics USB dongles, while doing great for phone pairing, for instance, don't do audio...
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salidacreative
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Dec 1, 2006 6:28 am
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Re: How are you managing your headphones/headsets?
I found this thread and was wondering if there's any update.
[A tip for those reading in email. In the headers of each message to TidBITS Talk, there's an X-WebxRef header with a link to the message in its thread on the Web site; that makes it fairly easy to refer back to previous messages even if you don't keep everything. Note that the display may seem odd; Web Crossing always shows you the first message in the thread, and then one or more "around" the one you clicked in from, but to see all of a long thread, you need to click the small "All" button underneath the first message. -Adam]
I'm using Skype also. I have a USB headset I like, but I found it doesn't travel well - one side broke once, I was able to snap it back together and it is working. I'd like to get a small, bluetooth or USB headset, stereo if possible that would travel well in a backpack type of situation. Would the kind sold for cell phones work? I did buy one that was sold as a notebook headset (Logitech, $60), USB with analog plugs, folding headset and a case. The sound was awful, the case was very flimsy (never closed even) and I returned it. The one I have now is USB, Logitech, and the audio quality is pretty good, but I want something smaller to leave in the laptop bag.
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anguskype (apparently)
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Dec 19, 2006 5:25 am
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Re: How are you managing your headphones/headsets?
I have coincidentally just started to explore options for Bluetooth
headsets.
Something like this:
http://www.plantronics.com/north_america/en_US/products/cat1150057/cat5420035/prod29780013
That one is pricey at $249, but nonetheless I would consider a high
quality lightweight, stereo headset that I could use for phone calls
(Treo), my Mac (including Skype), and perhaps any forthcoming
Bluetooth-enabled iPod "thangs."
Anyone here used the above, or similar?
I already have a couple of mono-Bluetooth earpieces but found the
benefit/hassle ratio to be too low. Stereo, and the ability to
comfortably wear it without having it cling to my ear like an Alien
chestburster, or looking like a, ah, Windork ;-) would help immeasurably.
Angus.
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jason314 (apparently)
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Dec 31, 2006 1:53 am
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Re: How are you managing your headphones/headsets?
On 20/12/2006, at 1:25 AM, Angus Wong wrote:
> Anyone here used the above, or similar?
I use an el-cheap-o version of the same thing. It's made by Freo, I
have no further details than that, I bought it when the local
electronics company was having a clearance sale. The only thing I
don't like about it is that OS X broadcasts audio on what the headset
considers to be the "phone" channel and so I can't have my phone and
my mac connected to the headset at the same time. Other than that
it's fantastic.
It's an effort to get the phone to pair with the headset again once
I've stopped using it with the mac, but since I bought it primarily
to use with my mac at work so I can walk around the office and still
listen to my music I don't care so much. The quality is fairly
average, but if I wasn't using the headphones I'd be listening on a
fairly average set of PC speakers anyway. I never use it at home, I
have a reasonable set of speakers at home or if I really want to, I
can hook the mac up to my nice Pioneer stereo that it's sitting next
too.
I've noticed that the range of the bluetooth seams to be better than
that of my mobile phone. I have my mac set (using Salling Clicker)
to pause iTunes when the phone goes out of range and upon walking
"out of range" with the headset on, have heard the mac make the "lost
contact with phone" sound and then the music stopped. (I have all
system sound routed through the headset when I'm using it)
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Cyri
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salidacreative
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That device looks cool, Cyri, but I'd like stereo. It got me looking around again. I saw this - Nextlink Spider headset at a Radio Shack. Radio Shack says this is "exclusive." It's stereo, Bluetooth with a 100 meter range, ten times the normal Bluetooth range. I wouldn't mind if it worked well, sounded good, and had only normal range.
I looked around online and could find very little about it. Finally found the manufacturer's web site, but even that didn't give a whole lot of detail - at least not enough for me. Here is the Nextlink web page:
http://www.nextlink.se/Templates/Article0.aspx?PageID=8538047a-0978-4a2d-80f4-d1f661804e73 I have 2 questions regarding the use of this thing:
1. Is the Mac, powerbook with built-in Bluetooth, a "Class 1" device?
2. The Spider package says little, you can see through the packaging to what looks like a nice over the ear headset, a USB charging cable, and an AC charging adaptor, but a microphone is not visible. I'd like to see the mic.
I may go back and buy it and try it, but it anyone else has first hand experience with this headset, please tell us about it.
Thanks,
Peter Nextlink Bluespoon Spider headset
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