Replacement for Tex-Edit Plus?

>I've been using Tex-Edit Plus for years but unfortunately it looks
>like it's not going to make it to the Snow Leopard age. It's based
>on the WASTE engine which hasn't seen an update in a very long time,
>so I sadly have to find a replacement.
>
>Here's what I like about Tex-Edit Plus and what I need in a similar app:
>
>1. Pasted-in text keeps its general formatting (bold, italics,
>underlines, text color)
>
>2. A quick and easy clean-up command to delete extra spaces and line
>spaces, smarten/unsmarten quotes, etc.
>
>3. Good AppleScript support
>
>4. Universal or Intel-only -- I'm keeping Rosetta off my system
>
>Suggestions?

Even if you had used Rosetta, Tex-Edit Plus (TEP) would not have
worked. Unfortunately, there is a flaw in the code where the program
suddenly hangs and you have to reopen it. It appears there will be
no fix so it seems TEP has been assigned to the software graveyard.

There is nothing I know of that offers the simplicity of TEP. There
are several high powered text editors out there including Text
Wrangler, Editra, and emacs. Use those with caution as they require a
good understanding to exploit all their capabilities.

On 9/4/09 12:18 PM, "joecab" <joecabearthlink.net> wrote:

> 4. Universal or Intel-only -- I'm keeping Rosetta off my system

Why? It's only called when needed and takes up very little room.

--
Diane

Your best bet might be TextEdit (Apple's). It's AppleScript support is strong enough that you should be able to mimic the best of Tex-Edit.

Man, I'm going to miss Tex-Edit. It was the best!

On 2009/09/05, at 21:52, ivanp wrote:

> I moved from Tex-Edit to Jedit X <http://www.artman21.com/en/jedit_x/> about 2 year ago. I like it. It has killer Applescript and Automator support.
>
> I'm still on Leopard and noticed on the Jedit site no mention of Snow Leopard support. What I can say is that the app has been regularly upgraded during my time of use.

The developer says the current version (Jedit X 2.15) works just fine under
Snow Leopard. It's true that it is not a 64-bit application (yet), but he says
64-bit-ness is not really important for a text editor, so it is not really an
urgent issue. He says he will work on an update of Jedit X,
after finishing the OpenMenu X Rev. 2 update release (real soon).

OpenMenu X Rev.2
<http://www.artman21.com/en/openmenu_x/opx_beta.html>
is a Snow Leopard compatible "system menu environment".
It overcomes the limitation of Snow Leopard's Services/Contextual Menu
that Matt mentioned in his article "What's New in Snow Leopard"
<http://db.tidbits.com/article/10504>

According to the developer:
You can invoke OpenMenu X popup menu even on Snow Leopard Finder or 64-bit applications that are not compatible with the contextual menu plugins.

He is currently busy finalizing the OpenMenu X Rev. 2 release (he hadn't know
Snow Leopard had been to be released early, before September), but after that,
he plans to start working on an update to Jedit X, as far as I heard.

cheers,

Mark
--
Mark Nagata
mailto:nagatakurims.kyoto-u.ac.jp

On Fri, Sep 4, 2009 at 3:18 PM, joecab<joecabearthlink.net> wrote:
> Suggestions?

TeXShop? http://www.uoregon.edu/~koch/texshop/

On the plus side, you get to keep calling it Tex.

On the other hand, this may not be the TeX you were looking for :-)

--
Chris Devers
was really confused by this thread until he
realized it had nothing to do with Knuth :-)

Thanks for all the suggestions so far -- keep 'em coming if you have them.

I should have been more clear: Yes Tex-Edit Plus will run on Snow Leopard, but not without Rosetta installed since WASTE isn't being updated. I'm making a clean break and NOT installing Rosetta.

Oops I just read the posting about TEP NOT running on Snow Leopard even with Rosetta installed. My mistake. Guess I would have been forced to switch to a new app after all.

Diane> Yes Rosetta takes up very little room but when it runs, it eats up a good sized chunk of memory. I'm trying to keep this system lean and mean.

dtallman> D'oh! It never even occurred to me to just script Apple's TextEdit to do everything I needed in Tex-Edit. That's a great idea. I'm gonna give that a shot while I check out these other suggested apps.

Has anyone consulted with the owner of Tex-Edit Plus? I think the Tex part refers to Texas, the home base of the SW owner.

On 9/5/2009 at 5:52 AM -0700, "Thomas N. Casselman
cassco-at-c-fourth.com |TidBITS/1.0-Allow wrote:
>>I've been using Tex-Edit Plus for years but unfortunately it looks
>>like it's not going to make it to the Snow Leopard age. It's based
>>on the WASTE engine which hasn't seen an update in a very long time,
>>so I sadly have to find a replacement.
>>
>>Here's what I like about Tex-Edit Plus and what I need in a similar app:
>>
>>1. Pasted-in text keeps its general formatting (bold, italics,
>>underlines, text color)
>>
>>2. A quick and easy clean-up command to delete extra spaces and line
>>spaces, smarten/unsmarten quotes, etc.
>>
>>3. Good AppleScript support
>>
>>4. Universal or Intel-only -- I'm keeping Rosetta off my system
>>
>>Suggestions?
>
>Even if you had used Rosetta, Tex-Edit Plus (TEP) would not have
>worked. Unfortunately, there is a flaw in the code where the program
>suddenly hangs and you have to reopen it. It appears there will be
>no fix so it seems TEP has been assigned to the software graveyard.
>
>There is nothing I know of that offers the simplicity of TEP. There
>are several high powered text editors out there including Text
>Wrangler, Editra, and emacs. Use those with caution as they require a
>good understanding to exploit all their capabilities.
>

Is there some particular task where it hangs? I haven't used Tex-Edit
Plus in quite some time but I have what I think is the latest build
(4.9.8). I've been using it for the last few days with 10.6 and Rosetta
and haven't experienced any problems. I've just been doing some simple
text files and executing a few simple scripts, but so far so good.
Maybe it shouldn't be buried just yet?

Ed Holloman

I'm a long time user of Tex-Edit also. Jedit looks like it could take the place of most of the things I use Tex-Edit for, even giving me some new useful features, but... The Quick Cleanup section of TE is very helpful for doing quick cleanup of text files that I'm moving between Mac, Windows and UNIX. I know it is a simple find and replace but having it as a one click edit is nice.

It looks like TE has not been updated for 2 years.

Jim...

On Sep 8, 2009, at 2:59 AM, Ed Holloman wrote:

> Is there some particular task where it hangs? I haven't used Tex-Edit
> Plus in quite some time but I have what I think is the latest build
> (4.9.8). I've been using it for the last few days with 10.6 and
> Rosetta
> and haven't experienced any problems. I've just been doing some simple
> text files and executing a few simple scripts, but so far so good.
> Maybe it shouldn't be buried just yet?

I was about to ask if anyone had actually *tried* Tex-Edit Plus under
Snow Leopard. I note that it isn't listed as an incompatible
application:

OS X 10.6 Compatibility List
http://snowleopard.wikidot.com/

and I haven't heard any complaints from anyone who has tried it.

I'm glad to hear that Tex-Edit Plus works under Snow Leopard. I've
looked at seven or eight other text editors, and none of them have
all the useful, and easy to use, text manipulation features that Tex-
Edit Plus has.

Randy B. Singer • Mac OS X Routine Maintenance • http://www.macattorney.com/ts.html

Like others here - The loss of Tex-Edit is a major bummer Certainly the most useful App I've ever had. Nonetheless, Since Tex-Edit is not going to be updated it's time to move on. - not sure about others, but I've got thousands of files with styled text and graphics that I need to replace (since all have a .txt extension) -- Hmm... maybe Doug Adams will write a conversion script.

IvanP: thanks for Jedit X suggestion it's about as close a replacement as I've seen -- tho still not quite there.

Some oddities: a gazzillion fonts were activated upon launching the app (OS 10.411 with FontAgent Pro font manager) Styles which I'd created in Office, moved to a Text-Edit doc appeared (but did not function) in the Jedit doc?!?

A couple disappointments: no search/replace of Styles (except an Applescript workaround -- hope author will develop this) No differentiation between Carriage return, newline character.

Anyway, I need to standardize on something soon... Any other App suggestions greatly appreciated. but so far Jedit x is the front runner.

Well, I was wrong (see last post below)! :-[ I just tried TEP and it
works flawlessly. I believe when I upgraded through the Leopard
series, the problem was fixed. So now I have TEP back and await what
happens when I switch over to Snow Leopard.

>>
>>Even if you had used Rosetta, Tex-Edit Plus (TEP) would not have
>>worked. Unfortunately, there is a flaw in the code where the program
>>suddenly hangs and you have to reopen it. It appears there will be
>>no fix so it seems TEP has been assigned to the software graveyard.
>>
>>There is nothing I know of that offers the simplicity of TEP. There
>>are several high powered text editors out there including Text
>>Wrangler, Editra, and emacs. Use those with caution as they require a
>>good understanding to exploit all their capabilities.
>>

On 9/8/09 2:59 AM, "John Ferman" <jferma001q.com> wrote:

> Has anyone consulted with the owner of Tex-Edit Plus?

I wrote him a few months ago about an error I was getting and he indicated
that he was in school and didn't have the time to do any upgrades or fixes.

--
Diane

On 2009-09-09, at 6:41 AM, Randy B. Singer wrote:

> I'm glad to hear that Tex-Edit Plus works under Snow Leopard. I've
> looked at seven or eight other text editors, and none of them have
> all the useful, and easy to use, text manipulation features that Tex-
> Edit Plus has.

"Works" perhaps but hardly flawlessly. All my Tex-Edit Plus files
opened by default in TextEdit after I installed Snow Leopard. I could
still open them in their creator using Open With from the contextual
menu but attempting to save them to the Desktop as Tex-Edit Plus files
led to some rather quirky behaviour--all my desktop icons disappeared,
including those for my internal and external drives.

A Restart restored the icons, but the saved text file icon replaced
the Macintosh HD icon in the upper right, leaving a corner of the
latter to peek out from under the menu bar at the extreme upper left
of the screen. After trashing the text file and another Restart, all
apparently was restored to normal. All in all, I think it best to send
my Tex-Edit Plus files to live with Tiger in the basement eMac.

On 2009/09/09, at 19:17, Jim Bollman wrote:

> I'm a long time user of Tex-Edit also. Jedit looks like it could take the place of most of the things I use Tex-Edit for, even giving me some new useful features, but... The Quick Cleanup section of TE is very helpful for doing quick cleanup of text files that I'm moving between Mac, Windows and UNIX. I know it is a simple find and replace but having it as a one click edit is nice.

Jedit X has a quick platform-moving feature:
Open a document window.
Press Command-I. Then, a drawer opens to the right of the document window,
and in the drawer, there are two pop-up menus (among others)
"Encodings" and "Line endings"

Don't they do what you want?
(If incompatible characters are found when you try to switch character encodings,
it displays the incompatible characters, and offers search-and-replace for them.)

Mark

There's a program called Bean that might be promising. There's a Macworld article here:

<http://www.macworld.com/article/135436/2008/09/bean.html?lsrc=nl_mwgems_h_misc>

and Bean is found here:

<http://www.bean-osx.com/Bean.html>

It's free.

The Quick Cleanup section of TE is very helpful...

I loved Tex-Edit for the quick clean-up section, also. I now use TextWrangler for that functionality.

I missed the "Line ending" field it Jedit, that should take care of my cross platform fixes.

Jim...