.Mac Slides are missing after iPhoto Update 7.1.4

Pohle - 03:23am Aug 15, 2008 PST

Dear TidBITS Talk members:

Publishing of photos directly into other people's screen savers is not possible any more!

I read MobileMe features carefully, and publishing photos to screensavers is not on the list any more. I discussed this in an online chat with an Apple employee, but there was no information except that this feature was discontinued. He recommended <http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?path=iPhoto/7.0/en/6330.html> but that article did not cover the subject.

From within iPhoto there was a way to publish photos directly (to your own iDisk) so other people could enter the sender's .Mac account name into their Screen Saver setup and see the latest photos without having to do anything except waiting for the screen saver to start.

Getting photos still works - please try out Screen Saver Mobile Me. Go to System Preferences - Screen Saver - Pictures - MobileMe and RSS - Options - hit "+" and enter "chpohle" - after a short time you should see my pictures in your screen saver! But I cannot change the pictures any more!

iPhoto had a menu Share - .Mac slides that supplied contents directly to the Screen Savers on other Macs that did the above setup.

iPhoto versions before 7.1.4 could still do the trick even after the MobileMe transition. Only when Software Update changed iPhoto to include "MobileMe" instead of ".Mac", the feature was gone.

The pictures can still be accessed in Screen Saver, but cannot be changed any more in iPhoto. The photos are still available in iDisk - Pictures - Slide Shows - Public. There is also a config.plist file, and the picture names have changed to something like "Image-2C581A9C1DBD4840.jpg" during upload.

I tried to copy pictures into that folder manually, but that did not help. I even added a line into the config.plist file with the new picture's name, but that did not make it work either.

Please, would anybody help me bringing my latest pictures to my family's screen savers automatically again? Grandma will not download files and install them herself...

I asked the Apple employee to request this feature to come back. Does anybody have good connections to Apple to help a little on that side?

Thanks for your answers and help, sincerely, Carl H. Pohle

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Lewis Butler (apparently) - Aug 16, 2008 1:45 am (#1 Total: 17)

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On 15-Aug-2008, at 04:23, Pohle wrote:

> Please, would anybody help me bringing my latest pictures to my
> family's screen savers automatically again? Grandma will not
> download files and install them herself...

Can you still 'subscribe' to a gallery in iPhoto? (I have no idea, I
only publish them). If so:

Publish the photos as a gallery. Subscribe to the gallery in iPhoto.
Set the screensaver to use the gallery as its source of pictures.

Yeah, that's still in iPhoto help:
> You can subscribe to see photo albums published by a next-door
> neighbor or a friend on the other side of the world. As your friends
> or family members update their MobileMe Galleries, you see those
> photos in iPhoto on your computer.
>
> NOTE: To subscribe to a Gallery album, you must be using Mac OS X
> version 10.4.11 or later.
>
> To subscribe to a published album:
> Use your web browser to go to the website address for the
> published album, which is provided by the publisher.
>
> Click the Subscribe button.
> If you don’t see this button, click the Show Options button to
> make it appear.
>
> In the dialog, choose one of the following:
> via RSS: This allows you to view the album using your favorite
> RSS feed reader.
> in iPhoto: This causes the album to appear in your Source list.
>
> If you want, you can change how often to check for new photos. To do
> so, choose iPhoto > Preferences, click Gallery, and select a
> timeframe (for example, every hour or every day) from the pop-up menu.
> You can also update a subscribed album at any time by clicking the
> icon that appears next to it in your Source list.
>

Pohle (apparently) - Aug 16, 2008 8:59 am (#2 Total: 17)

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When I try to subscribe, iPhoto tells me:
"There are no photos in the subscription "MobileMe Atom Feed""
URL is correct, photos are in the online album.
No photos show up in the local album.

Try http://gallery.mac.com/chpohle and see if you get the same.

Also, that workaround would require grandma to open iPhoto to get the
latest pics.
That is not what .Mac slides could do automatically.

Carl

Lewis Butler (apparently) - Aug 18, 2008 3:34 am (#3 Total: 17)

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On 16-Aug-2008, at 09:59, Carl H. Pohle wrote:

> http://gallery.mac.com/chpohle

>> Click the Subscribe button.
>> If you don’t see this button, click the Show Options button to
>> make it appear.
>>
>> In the dialog, choose one of the following:
>> via RSS: This allows you to view the album using your favorite
>> RSS feed reader.
>> in iPhoto: This causes the album to appear in your Source list.

Well, the via iPhoto option doesn't appear to be there, so something
is not working.

Sorry, I relied on the Help to be correct.

Lewis Butler (apparently) - Aug 18, 2008 3:34 am (#4 Total: 17)

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On 16-Aug-2008, at 09:59, Carl H. Pohle wrote:
> When I try to subscribe, iPhoto tells me:
> "There are no photos in the subscription "MobileMe Atom Feed""
> URL is correct, photos are in the online album.
> No photos show up in the local album.

OK, this is odd. I just checked and my old .mac RSS sides screensaver
still works.

Opened up screensavers control panel, went to "Mobile Me and RSS" and
put in my .mac name.

Your .mac name does not work, however.

My .Mac slides are just pictures stored on my iDisk at

/Pictures/Slide Shows/Public/

Try putting your pictures in there, adding your ,mac name to the
screensaver and seeing if that works. I think it will, at least for now.

patrosh (apparently) - Aug 18, 2008 3:34 am (#5 Total: 17)

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This is just anecdotal evidence, but a few of my friends have had the same problems with iPhoto as I have had in the past. Photos downloaded from camera to iPhoto have mysteriously disappeared on several occasions, never to be seen again. The other day, at the local Mac Reseller here in Bondi, I was next in line to a young woman who was frantic because her entire collection of photos had vanished from her iPhoto album.

iPhoto has been uninstalled on my G5 some time ago. I now use my own system of downloading and storing photos in various folders, each named appropriately for easy searching. Then I make sure I have copies of the folders in several hard drives for extra security, as well as burning critical photos onto DVDs.

I love my Mac... but I just don't trust iPhoto. I think it is a flaky app. Am I alone in this regard?

Paul

Nicky Y. Schleider (apparently) - Aug 19, 2008 5:38 am (#6 Total: 17)

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On Aug 18, 2008, at 6:34 AM, Paul Atroshenko wrote:

> This is just anecdotal evidence, but a few of my friends have had
> the same problems with iPhoto as I have had in the past. Photos
> downloaded from camera to iPhoto have mysteriously disappeared on
> several occasions, never to be seen again. The other day, at the
> local Mac Reseller here in Bondi, I was next in line to a young
> woman who was frantic because her entire collection of photos had
> vanished from her iPhoto album.
>
> iPhoto has been uninstalled on my G5 some time ago. I now use my own
> system of downloading and storing photos in various folders, each
> named appropriately for easy searching. Then I make sure I have
> copies of the folders in several hard drives for extra security, as
> well as burning critical photos onto DVDs.
>
> I love my Mac... but I just don't trust iPhoto. I think it is a
> flaky app. Am I alone in this regard?

i have had the same thing happen. my problem was with photos i
scanned and with slides of my paintings that i scanned. i no longer
trust iphoto either. i also keep things in separate folders.

nicky

Lewis Butler (apparently) - Aug 19, 2008 5:38 am (#7 Total: 17)

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On 18-Aug-2008, at 04:34, Paul Atroshenko wrote:
> I love my Mac... but I just don't trust iPhoto. I think it is a
> flaky app. Am I alone in this regard?

I have about 15,000... no, that's not right, I HAD like 15,000 photos
in iPhoto. The only time I've ever 'lost' photos was when I went
mucking about in the Library directories myself, and even then, I
didn't 'lose' them, iPhoto simply lost track of them.

I have pared and whittled and deleted hundreds of pictures the kids
took of doors, walls, floors, their armpits, other people's armpits,
etc and am down to just under 8,000. I've had more trouble with
iTunes losing songs than with iPhoto losing photos. And again, that
seems to come about from mucking in the Library structure manually.

macgeek417 (apparently) - Aug 19, 2008 5:38 am (#8 Total: 17)

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You DO have an iLife DVD, right??
try reinstalling the un-updated iPhoto (after backing up, of course}

Pohle (apparently) - Aug 20, 2008 5:11 am (#9 Total: 17)

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I have that button,
- only in iPhoto 7.1.4 on my PowerBook G4, where I am still using Mac
OS X 10.4.11, with the .Mac icon instead of the MobileMe cloud still
in System Preferences.
- but not on my iMac, where I am using Mac OS X 10.5.4, with the
MobileMe cloud in System Preferences.

Which Mac OS X are you using?

Adam Engst - Aug 21, 2008 7:41 am (#10 Total: 17)

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At 5:38 AM -0700 8/19/08, Nicky Y. Schleider wrote:
>>I love my Mac... but I just don't trust iPhoto. I think it is a
>>flaky app. Am I alone in this regard?
>
>i have had the same thing happen. my problem was with photos i
>scanned and with slides of my paintings that i scanned. i no longer
>trust iphoto either. i also keep things in separate folders.

My experience (which is extensive, given the number of book editions
I've written about iPhoto versions) is that iPhoto seldom, if ever,
actually touches the photos on disk, in the iPhoto Library
folder/package (it used to be a folder; in iPhoto '08 it's a
package). What can happen, although it's increasingly uncommon, is
for the database that tracks them to become corrupted.

And for that, if you launch iPhoto while holding down Command-Option,
can be rebuilt successfully in most cases. Other options exist for
recovering photos manually if the rebuild options fail.

cheers... -Adam

Nicky Y. Schleider (apparently) - Aug 22, 2008 6:06 am (#11 Total: 17)

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> My experience (which is extensive, given the number of book editions
> I've written about iPhoto versions) is that iPhoto seldom, if ever,
> actually touches the photos on disk, in the iPhoto Library
> folder/package (it used to be a folder; in iPhoto '08 it's a
> package). What can happen, although it's increasingly uncommon, is
> for the database that tracks them to become corrupted.
>
> And for that, if you launch iPhoto while holding down Command-Option,
> can be rebuilt successfully in most cases. Other options exist for
> recovering photos manually if the rebuild options fail.

thanks, adam. i will try that. i get these strange problems, strange
to me at least, and hate to bother you guys with them. i know a good
bit, but i'm not in your league.

nicky

Pohle (apparently) - Aug 23, 2008 3:25 pm (#12 Total: 17)

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Let's get back to the original topic...
(".Mac slides missing" does not have anything to do with "lost
pictures within iPhoto")

I found the solution to my own question.
Lewis

Gmail gkreme

Pohle (apparently) - Aug 24, 2008 3:40 am (#13 Total: 17)

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ONCE AGAIN WITHOUT THE PICTURE THAT CUT OFF HALF MY MESSAGE...

Let's get back to the original topic...
(".Mac slides missing" does not have anything to do with "lost
pictures within iPhoto")

I found the solution to my own question.
Lewis

Gmail gkreme

gmail.com gave the hint that made me find it.
Thank you, Lewis!

A menu Share - .Mac slides does NOT exist anymore, b u t . . .
the button mentioned by Lewis exists if your screen is w i d e
enough!!!
If it is not, there is a small popup menu at the lower right end of
iPhoto!!!
It can be accessed by clicking on the >> symbol!!! (Which is not
shown in the screenshot above)

Shame on me...
Thanks for trying to help.
Carl H. Pohle

George Wade (apparently) - Aug 25, 2008 3:24 am (#14 Total: 17)

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On 24-Aug-08, at 3:40 AM, Carl H. Pohle wrote:

> ONCE AGAIN WITHOUT THE PICTURE THAT CUT OFF HALF MY MESSAGE...
>
> Let's get back to the original topic...
> (".Mac slides missing" does not have anything to do with "lost
> pictures within iPhoto")
>
> I found the solution to my own question.
> Lewis

Gmail gkreme

gmail.com gave the hint that made me find it.
> Thank you, Lewis!
>
> A menu Share - .Mac slides does NOT exist anymore, b u t . . .
> the button mentioned by Lewis exists if your screen is w i d e
> enough!!!
> If it is not, there is a small popup menu at the lower right end of
> iPhoto!!!
> It can be accessed by clicking on the >> symbol!!! (Which is not
> shown in the screenshot above)

Pictures are worth a million words, very often. No shame, if you are
referring to the picture that cut off half your message: TidBits is
Graphic Blind ;-)

George

Lewis Butler (apparently) - Aug 26, 2008 3:18 am (#15 Total: 17)

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On 25-Aug-2008, at 04:24, George Wade wrote:
> Pictures are worth a million words, very often. No shame, if you are
> referring to the picture that cut off half your message: TidBits is
> Graphic Blind ;-)

Unfortunately it is not just graphic blind, but down-right hostile.
Normal mailing lists that don't allow attachments simply strip them
out and post your message (like my own mailman lists). Web Crossing
strips the attachment AND strips anything following the attachment.
So, instead of sending a message to TBT and ccing the OP a copy that
also has a small embedded image (and including a link to same image
for the benefit of the TBT readers) I have to make two separate
messages.

So the OP gets to read my reply twice.

danielgoldblatt - Aug 26, 2008 3:48 pm (#16 Total: 17)

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Backups to Time Capsule external drive?

The person I talked to at the local Apple Store didn't seem sure about this. If I attach a large hard drive to a Time Capsule's USB port will Time Machine offer it as a backup drive, or will I only be offered the Time Capsule's internal drive?

--Dan G.

George Wade (apparently) - Aug 27, 2008 12:56 am (#17 Total: 17)

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On 26-Aug-08, at 3:18 AM, Lewis

Gmail wrote:

> On 25-Aug-2008, at 04:24, George Wade wrote:
>> Pictures are worth a million words...
> Unfortunately it is not just graphic blind, but down-right
> hostile.....

Well, Lewis,

I'm not going to try to change TidBits policies as they do things so
very well. What I might do is find somewhere to post graphics and
link to them from a post like this one. Me.com or GoogleApps...
G

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