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[Nik]Nik - 12:37pm Jul 20, 2008 PST

I recently purchased an iPhone 3G, and have been disappointed to find that my car adapter (a Kensington charger/FM transmitter combo) is incapable of charging my iPhone. Furthermore, it seems that MOST iPod/iPhone car accessories do not work with the new iPhone!

I'm hoping that the TidBITS audience might share their experiences as to what works/doesn't work with the new phones, especially for car use.

My current need is for an FM adapter and charger that don't require me to go into "airplane mode" in order to avoid phone interference. But any other reports of accessories that do/don't work would also be a valuable to me and, I suspect, to others.

-- Nik

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Car charger iPhone 3G - Jul 23, 2008 4:00 pm (#5 Total: 24)  

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Is it possible to mention some products that can charge the iPhone 3G? I tried this USB-thing, but nothing happened.

Nik - Jul 24, 2008 7:42 am (#6 Total: 24)  

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I have had some success with a belkin FM tuner/charger. It still prompts me to try airplane mode, but charges and broadcasts fine once I cancel our of the annoying dialog.

This makes me wonder if Apple hasn't added a "genuine iphone accessory" chip that can only me obtained by proper licencees. As if the iPhone isn't Enoch of a walled garden already.

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Carl Jonard - Jul 27, 2008 2:57 am (#7 Total: 24)  

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joel - Jul 31, 2008 3:31 pm (#8 Total: 24)  

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I have a Denon ICE>Link (the original one for first dock connector iPod) which doesn't charge the iPhone 3G, but does still play. However, the software on it has been flaky for some time, occasionally locking out with the message "No Magazine" and necessitating pulling the fuse providing power to it (it's been doing that since before the iPhones).

So, I wouldn't be averse to getting a new ipod connector to plug in to the radio - it connects using the Sony CD changer interface into the factory fit Citroen Xantia radio, and can be controlled via the steering wheel controls.

What car kits are there which support charging? I don't need handsfree, as that is supplied by a separate bluetooth handsfree kit.

Cheers,

Joel

joel - Jul 31, 2008 3:31 pm (#9 Total: 24)  

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I have heard various unconfirmed reports that the iPhone 3G charged OK before it was activated. I think I did this with my car kit, but I can't be certain. Can anyone confirm/deny this? If so, it would mean that there might be a software fix.

Have any of the sites which disassemble the iPhone 3G been able to confirm the charging circuitry? If the charging circuitry isn't there, then there is no chance of a firmware fix.

Cheers,

Joel

Vinnie110 - Jul 31, 2008 3:31 pm (#10 Total: 24)  

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I not convinced by the whole firewire charging support issue. I tried using the iPhone USB cable with 2 different USB power charger adapters for the car and it didn't work with either.

My Alpine head unit doesn't charge it but the iPhone says that it is not a supported accessory. It still plays through the head unit but doesn't charger. I don't put it in flight mode as I want to receive calls. Don't really get an interference problem, at least no more than with any mobile phone in the car.

wbauer (apparently) - Jul 31, 2008 3:57 pm (#11 Total: 24)  

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What cases do you recommend for an iPhone 3G? I need one that will
allow the iPhone to easily slip in to my pocket, preferably still
allow the design of the phone to be seen (i.e., possible a clear
case), and provide at least some protection should it be dropped. It
would be good if it was also easy to sync while in the case.

Bill

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entropy (apparently) - Aug 1, 2008 12:34 pm (#12 Total: 24)  

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Vinnie110 <kevinstorr.co.uk> wrote:

>I not convinced by the whole firewire charging support issue. I
>tried using the iPhone USB cable with 2 different USB power charger
>adapters for the car and it didn't work with either.

According to the tzywen pages below, the iPhone apparently wants
voltages on both data pins as well as on the power pins, and the data
pins aren't connected on car chargers. This doesn't affect computers
because the phone negotiates with the computer to get the 500mA it
needs.

Boxwave sells charging adapters for $8. I suppose this means I can
keep the nifty pocket-size VR3 inverter+USB I got from Costco; all I
need is one of these adapters. (The Wal-Mart version includes an FM
transmitter as well.)

http://tzywen.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=645
http://tzywen.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=683
http://tzywen.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=696

http://www.boxwave.com/products/iphonechargingadapter/

http://www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=5162346

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Lewis Butler (apparently) - Aug 1, 2008 12:34 pm (#13 Total: 24)  

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On 31-Jul-2008, at 16:31, Vinnie110 wrote:

> I not convinced by the whole firewire charging support issue.

You don't have to be convinced. Previous iPhones and iPods supported
charging on BOTH the USB (low power) and Firewire (high power) pins.
Most devices used the firewire because it was compatible with older
hardware, it charged faster, and they didn't have to change anything.
If your device uses the firewire power to charge, the new iPhone
cannot charge off it because it has not connector on that pin.

> I tried using the iPhone USB cable with 2 different USB power
> charger adapters for the car and it didn't work with either.

They are most likely using hte firewire power pin then.

(the firewire power pin does not mean it is a firewire connector, it's
just which pin they routed the power too)

bago (apparently) - Aug 1, 2008 12:34 pm (#14 Total: 24)  

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Bill,
I recently purchased four cases in different colors from a company
called Cozip on amazon that I recommend

Michael

R.A. Hettinga (apparently) - Aug 1, 2008 12:39 pm (#15 Total: 24)  

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On Jul 31, 2008, at 6:57 PM, William Bauer wrote:

> What cases do you recommend for an iPhone 3G?

The Agent 18 one is nice.

<http://www.agent18.com/scripts/prodview2.asp?idproductpages=36>

When it hits the ground, it breaks apart (gracefully, you can put it
back together) absorbing at least some of the shock.

Cheers,
RAH


Alan Forkosh (apparently) - Aug 4, 2008 10:03 am (#16 Total: 24)  

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I've started to see car chargers that will work with an iPhone 3G. The
Griffin Power Jot ($20 at the Apple store) has an auto adapter plug
with a USB connector and a separate iPod to USB cable. A ring around
the USB post changes color to let you know the state of charge.

At other stores I also saw a DLO charger($24) marked as working for
the iPhone 3G and a Kensington plug with a USB port ($10) that looks
like it should work with an iPod cable,

Alan Forkosh Oakland, CA
aforkoshmac.com




swyant (apparently) - Aug 5, 2008 2:34 am (#17 Total: 24)  

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On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:03 AM, Alan Forkosh wrote:

> I've started to see car chargers that will work with an iPhone 3G. The
> Griffin Power Jot ($20 at the Apple store) has an auto adapter plug
> with a USB connector and a separate iPod to USB cable. A ring around
> the USB post changes color to let you know the state of charge

I have one of these, and bought one for my daughter. It works as
advertised. It's "Power Jolt" though -- tiny typo.

Scott Wyant

Jose Toscano - Aug 6, 2008 2:19 am (#18 Total: 24)  

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Hello I currently Have the first generation Iphone but I would like to get the 3G one but what I need to get the adaptor for a 2003 BMW 325I does anyboby know which adaptor I will need so I can charge and lestin to the new Iphone in the Beemer? Thanks Jose

angelina maben - Aug 7, 2008 3:33 am (#19 Total: 24)  

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I dont know so much about iphone 3g accessoires but i like to give you a answer of your question I have search one site in google iphone 3g accessories keyword and the site is http://www.blueunplugged.com/c.aspx?c=57128

Sally Bergman - Aug 23, 2008 7:38 am (#20 Total: 24)  

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For those who have original iPhone docks, they can be made to work with the new 3G. I simply used a Dremel rotary grinder hand tool to grind out a small portion of the plastic at the front portion of the dock. The new 3G now fits snugly into my existing apple iphone/blueooth headset dock.

Paul Gorlinsky - Aug 31, 2008 6:31 am (#21 Total: 24)  

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Re: Existing iPod/iPhone car accessories.

Several years ago, APPLE issued an engineering memo that stated that Firewire was being dropped. In order to give manufacturers time to retool both interfaces through the Apple adapter had been supported. Note that the FIREWIRE power is 12VDC which is the same as almost every car made today. Taking the cheapest route and ignoring Apple recommendation, the car makers choose to implement the FIREWIRE 12VDC because it saved them the extra $3 12 VDC to 5 VDC regulator. This is not Apple's fault, but the fault of the auto manufacturers without exception.

But the blame where it belongs - on the manufacturer.

On the other hand - this could have been avoided if Apple had included more information about the difference in the 3G and the first gen iphone.

I would assume (I hate that word) the future versions of the iPod will have the same issue.

Joe Adroit - Dec 31, 2008 1:48 pm (#22 Total: 24)  

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Yeah I know what you mean. I had the same problems with my touch 2g.. I found some real cheap deals though after looking around online. Worked out real good from this one site. They have a cheap charger for the iPhone 3g also I saw. Lots of good reviews to if you google.

http://www.inspiretech.com/p-345-iphone-3g-car-charger.aspx

hope links are cool.

moe (apparently) - Jan 1, 2009 3:15 pm (#23 Total: 24)  

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Another source for inexpensive iPhone accessories is

   dealextreme.com

I have bought several power adapters, external batteries spare
earbuds to keep in the car, etc. The quality is generally pretty
good, shipping is free (but takes a while because it comes direct
from Hong Kong or Taiwan.

Tim Davies - Jan 7, 2009 1:10 am (#24 Total: 24)  

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It is interesting to learn about the Firewire issue. I did note that quite a few charging accessories didn't initially work with the iPhone 3G. I have managed to buy a (working) car charger from these guys: <http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/cat/Apple-iPhone-3G.htm> Don't always assume that an accessory will work with the iPhone 3G - I've found you need to use a reputable website to check compatibility information.



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