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Name: "Snow Leopard"![[mike.millard]](/webx/?30@@1) mike.millard (apparently) - 02:32pm Jun 17, 2008 PSTvia emailIs Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is "Leopard"?
Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
releases could become quite confusing.
Mike Millard,
West Vancouver BC
Canada V7W 1N5
paul4 (apparently)
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On 17 Jun 2008, at 23:32, Mike Millard wrote:
> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is
> "Leopard"?
I rather fancied "Tabby" myself...
Kind regards
Paul Ellis
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ShawnKing (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 1:54 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On 6/17/08 6:32 PM, "Mike Millard" <mike.millard  shaw.ca> wrote:
> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is "Leopard"?
Yes.
> Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
> releases could become quite confusing.
Apple is not above confusing it's users. :)
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Shawn King
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Nigel Stanger (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 1:54 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On 18/06/2008 10:32 AM, "Mike Millard" <mike.millard shaw.ca> spake thus:
> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is "Leopard"?
I kind of like it, especially given the apparently more incremental nature
of the next release. It's rather nice that the naming reflects that too :)
On a different but related note, I saw this morning that the latest release
of Informix from IBM is code-named "Cheetah". Damn copy-cats! :)
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Nigel Stanger, Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.
http://xri.net/=nigel.stanger
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Steve McCabe (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 1:54 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is "Leopard"?
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> Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
> releases could become quite confusing.
Not really. It shows an element of continuity between Panthera pardus and
Uncia uncia. Apple, if what we're reading is accurate, are taking pains to
point out that, in many ways, L and SL are the same ‹ had they switched from
Leopard to, say, Ocelot or Civit, it would have been clear that the new
system were a significant development from its predecessor, as Leopard was
from Tiger, or Tiger was from, well, from whatever it was preceded Tiger (I
seem to recall it was The Cat That Real Steve Jobs Cannot Pronounce, but I'm
willing to be wrong; it might have been Panther, which would then imply that
Apple are making a bigger leap than they're signalling with the
Leopard-to-Different-Kind-Of-Leopard jump, since panthers and leopards both
belong in the genus Panthera, but the snow leopard, U. uncia, is from the
genus Uncia (I'll get my coat)).
Snow Leopard ‹ the same, only different.
Steve
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raykloss (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 1:54 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On Jun 17, 2008, at 5:32 PM, Mike Millard wrote:
> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is
> "Leopard"?
>
> Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
> releases could become quite confusing.
I don't think they care. Remember all the PowerBooks that were
actually different models?
Who knows? 10.7 may just be "Black Leopard."
Ray
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Lewis Butler (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 1:54 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On 17-Jun-2008, at 16:32, Mike Millard wrote:
> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is
> "Leopard"?
Seems so.
> Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
> releases could become quite confusing.
Less so than you might think. 10.6 is a "spit and polish" release in
which a lot of things are going to get tuned, cleaned, optimized, and
more fully integrated. It will essentially be "leopard plus" so the
name is not going to be as confusing as you might think.
Yes, I think it is a really silly name, but I emailed The Steve with a
suggestion that Apple pony up $5 a copy of 10.6 to www.snowleopard.org
and that might make the silly name worth it.
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cdevers (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 2:06 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On Tue, 17 Jun 2008, Mike Millard wrote:
> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is "Leopard"?
>
> Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
> releases could become quite confusing.
From everything that has been said about it, surely the point is that,
to the point of view of user visible features, it's still going to look
and act a lot like Leopard does today.
The changes are all going to be under the hood, so to speak.
Almost as if buried under a coat of "Leopard snow".
Seems like a reasonable name to me.
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Chris Devers
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David Weintraub (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 2:06 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Mike Millard <mike.millard shaw.ca> wrote:
> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is "Leopard"?
>
> Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
> releases could become quite confusing.
>
I think they meant it that way. The idea is Snow Leopard isn't a new
release with new features, but an improved version of the older
release. Something like Windows service packs, but costing you $125
instead of being free.
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David Weintraub
qazwart gmail.com
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barry.wainwright (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 2:25 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On 17 Jun 2008, at 23:32, Mike Millard wrote:
> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is
> "Leopard"?
>
> Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
> releases could become quite confusing.
>
I suspect it is deliberate - with the emphasis on this next release
being performance rather than new features, it makes sense to seed
people's expectations with the thought that this is still a Leopard,
just a slightly different kind!
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Barry
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Randy B. Singer (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 2:25 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
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cmsklar (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 10:47 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
At 2:54 PM -0700 6/21/08, Nigel Stanger wrote:
<snip>
>On a different but related note, I saw this morning that the latest release
>of Informix from IBM is code-named "Cheetah". Damn copy-cats! :)
Yeah. Seagate should sue both Apple and IBM. Cheetah is Seagate's
registered trademark.
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Regards,
Chuck
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kevinv (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 10:47 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
--On June 17, 2008 3:32:14 PM -0700 Mike Millard <mike.millard shaw.ca>
wrote:
> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is "Leopard"?
According to wikipedia a Snow Leopard is smaller than the typical Leopard
and it's very good at maintaining balance on the unstable landscape of its
habitat.
Heh, maybe they picked it on purpose give that Snow Leopard isn't supposed
to get more features but they're focusing on optimization and stability.
> Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
> releases could become quite confusing.
I have two Mac minis. One is a PowerPC the other is an intel Core 2 Duo
chip. At least they look the same, look at the variation that encompasses
the "iMac" line!
Apple isn't exactly above causing confusion.
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John C. Welch (apparently)
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Jun 21, 2008 10:47 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On 6/21/08 5:06 PM, "Chris Devers" <cdevers pobox.com> wrote:
> From everything that has been said about it, surely the point is that,
> to the point of view of user visible features, it's still going to look
> and act a lot like Leopard does today.
>
> The changes are all going to be under the hood, so to speak.
> Almost as if buried under a coat of "Leopard snow".
>
> Seems like a reasonable name to me.
One interesting theory, from a friend of mine, is that if there are no "new
features" then Apple doesn't get bagged by the SOX requirements to charge
for them. Now, I'm NOT saying it will be free. But I'm saying this could
give Apple some interesting flexibility in what to charge for it.
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John C. Welch
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tbutler (apparently)
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Jun 22, 2008 2:05 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On 6/21/08 at 5:25 PM, barryw mac.com (Barry Wainwright) wrote:
>On 17 Jun 2008, at 23:32, Mike Millard wrote:
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>>Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
>>releases could become quite confusing.
>
>I suspect it is deliberate - with the emphasis on this next release
>being performance rather than new features, it makes sense to seed
>people's expectations with the thought that this is still a Leopard,
>just a slightly different kind!
In addition, if the rumors are correct and this is the release
that drops PPC compatibility, it makes even more sense to
emphasize the continuity with Leopard; less of a sense of loss
for PPC users.
Travis Butler
tbutler mac.com
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Lewis Butler (apparently)
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Jun 22, 2008 2:05 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On 22-Jun-2008, at 00:47, Charles M. Sklar wrote:
> At 2:54 PM -0700 6/21/08, Nigel Stanger wrote:
> <snip>
>> On a different but related note, I saw this morning that the latest
>> release
>> of Informix from IBM is code-named "Cheetah". Damn copy-cats! :)
>
> Yeah. Seagate should sue both Apple and IBM. Cheetah is Seagate's
> registered trademark.
Apple only used "Cheetah" as an internal code name. Also, Seagate's
trademark certainly does not apply to all uses of the word Cheetah.
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mike.millard (apparently)
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Jun 22, 2008 2:05 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
The other day, I mused:
>> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its
next release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is
"Leopard"?
>>Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
releases could become quite confusing.
I have to agree with the many who feel "Snow Leopard" is appropriate,
as long as the statement, that S.L. will be a "major tune-up" rather
than one with many new features, holds true.
(KAOS: the operating system Maxwell Smart's in-shoe PDA runs on?)
Mike Millard
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johnbaxterlists (apparently)
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Jun 22, 2008 2:05 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
On Jun 21, 2008, at 3:06 PM, David Weintraub wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Mike Millard <mike.millard shaw.ca>
> wrote:
>> Is Apple serious about keeping the name "Snow Leopard" for its next
>> release of Mac OS X, when the name for the present release is
>> "Leopard"?
>>
>> Seems to me that having the same word in names for consecutive
>> releases could become quite confusing.
>>
>
> I think they meant it that way. The idea is Snow Leopard isn't a new
> release with new features, but an improved version of the older
> release. Something like Windows service packs, but costing you $125
> instead of being free.
Costing an as yet unannounced price.
--John
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dr (apparently)
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Jun 23, 2008 12:17 am
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
Charles M. Sklar wrote:
> At 2:54 PM -0700 6/21/08, Nigel Stanger wrote:
> <snip>
>> On a different but related note, I saw this morning that the latest
>> release
>> of Informix from IBM is code-named "Cheetah". Damn copy-cats! :)
>
> Yeah. Seagate should sue both Apple and IBM. Cheetah is Seagate's
> registered trademark.
Doesn't work that way. If you want to sell a disk drive called Cheetah then Seagate has a big hammer for you. A box that stores data, a somewhat smaller hammer. A box for storing cooking utensils in the kitchen, well you might get a letter that you could ignore.
As to a Mac OS version, they might have a claim but it's not a slam dunk.
David
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jeffreywpearson (apparently)
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Jun 24, 2008 1:30 pm
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Re: Name: "Snow Leopard"
When I first read the name it made sense to me cause I had read of the
dropping of the PPC at the same time. They are keeping the Leopard
name since it is an incremental release. But because it 1) Drops PPC
support so it is 'pure' Intel now and 2) Supposedly 'pure' 64 bit
now......both of those referring to the old 'pure as snow' saying....
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