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ManOpen/OpenMan Usage![[rapope]](/webx/?30@@1) rapope (apparently) - 04:04pm May 11, 2008 PSTvia emailHi,
I have been using ManOpen and openman for a while with no problems. I went
to use the command line openman with a parameter and saw that the ManOpen
program opened, but the applicable man page did not. I checked around and
saw a post by someone who noted that openman didnąt work for them on an
Intel Mac. Someone else suggested compiling from the source code. I did
just that. I replaced the copy of OpenMan.app and openman (which I placed
in the /usr/sbin directory ‹ the location doesnąt matter as long as it is in
the search path) with the newly-compiled copies.
In any case, I am stymied by this seemingly simple but annoying problem.
The man files path preferences are OK per ManOpen (/usr/share/man;
/sw/share/man; /usr/local/man; /usr/X11R6/man) as they all contain man
files. Itąs as if the parameter for the appropriate man file isnąt being
passed to ManOpen.
Does anyone have any ideas? I didnąt find anything that covers this
question on Google. I was going to check with Carl Lindberg (author), but I
thought Iąd check here before doing that.
Thanks for any suggestions,
Rocky
Nigel Stanger (apparently)
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May 12, 2008 2:05 am
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
On 12/05/2008 11:04 AM, "Rocky Pope" <rapope  toast.net> spake thus:
> I checked around and saw a post by someone who noted that openman didnąt work
> for them on an Intel Mac.
I doubt it's anything to do with Intel. For me it started doing this when I
upgraded to Leopard at work. It continues to work normally on my Mac Pro
running Tiger at home.
Unfortunately I have no solution. These days I have ManOpen running as a
login item, and have got into the habit of switching to it and hitting
command-O as a workaround.
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Nigel Stanger, Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.
http://xri.net/=nigel.stanger
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rapope (apparently)
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May 12, 2008 12:35 pm
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
I have come across another solution. Go to < http://www.bruji.com/cocoa/>
and download Bwana. It allows you to call up the Man pages from within your
web browser. It creates an index of the pages. It seems to want to use
Safari (even though I had my default set to Firefox), but you can just book
mark the item in Firefox.
Thanks,
Rocky
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David Emme (apparently)
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May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
There's also AquaLess: < http://aqualess.sourceforge.net/> You can
set this as your PAGER (see the ReadMe), and your 'man <whatever>'
output will be presented nicely formatted in a normal Aqua window.
From the ReadMe:
AquaLess is a text pager for Mac OS X. It allows you to browse plain
text files and – more importantly – text output from Unix command
line tools. AquaLess is a Cocoa replacement for the “less” command,
which is constrained to the terminal window. AquaLess opens a
separate window for each text, so you can keep working in the
terminal while you read. ... AquaLess supports the special codes used
by “man” to encode bold and underlined words in plain text.
Cheers!
-Dave
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Peter N Lewis
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May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
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David Weintraub (apparently)
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May 12, 2008 10:55 pm
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
On Sun, May 11, 2008 at 7:04 PM, Rocky Pope <rapope toast.net> wrote:
> Hi,
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> I have been using ManOpen and openman for a while
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> Does anyone have any ideas? I didnąt find anything that covers this
> question on Google. I was going to check with Carl Lindberg (author), but I
> thought Iąd check here before doing that.
I'll have to give it a try. Meanwhile, if ManOpen doesn't work for
you, and you want a GUI Manpage, try the "xman" command. It starts up
X11, and it isn't Mac looking, but it does work.
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David Weintraub
qazwart gmail.com
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barefootguru (apparently)
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May 13, 2008 7:47 am
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
On 2008-05-13, at 17:55, Peter N Lewis wrote:
> Another option is to use Apple's online Mac OS X Manual Pages at:
Or access the man pages through Xcode.
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rapope (apparently)
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May 18, 2008 4:35 am
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
>> I have been using ManOpen and openman for a while
>>
>> Does anyone have any ideas? I didnąt find anything that covers this
>> question on Google. I was going to check with Carl Lindberg (author), but I
>> thought Iąd check here before doing that.
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> I'll have to give it a try. Meanwhile, if ManOpen doesn't work for
> you, and you want a GUI Manpage, try the "xman" command. It starts up
> X11, and it isn't Mac looking, but it does work.
Hi,
Thanks for the suggestion. I tried this before I got to read your message,
and while to works just fine, I read some people (elsewhere) snickering
about how "inelegant" it was. I say who cares, as long as the item is
functional. But others disagree.
Regards,
Rocky
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rapope (apparently)
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May 18, 2008 4:35 am
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
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rapope (apparently)
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May 18, 2008 4:35 am
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
> There's also AquaLess: < http://aqualess.sourceforge.net/> You can
> set this as your PAGER (see the ReadMe), and your 'man <whatever>'
> output will be presented nicely formatted in a normal Aqua window.
>
> From the ReadMe:
> AquaLess is a text pager for Mac OS X. It allows you to browse plain
> text files and more importantly text output from Unix command
> line tools. AquaLess is a Cocoa replacement for the łless˛ command,
> which is constrained to the terminal window. AquaLess opens a
> separate window for each text, so you can keep working in the
> terminal while you read. ... AquaLess supports the special codes used
> by łman˛ to encode bold and underlined words in plain text.
This seems like an interesting idea. I'll check into it.
Regards,
Rocky
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David Weintraub (apparently)
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May 19, 2008 4:23 am
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
Okay, it's not nice and graphical, but if you're in the terminal
window, using the plain old "man" command does just fine and is pretty
fast. if you're in VIM, and you press <Shift-K>, you'll be taken to
the man page entry of the current word.
I find setting TERM to xterm-color (and making sure that Terminal.app
is set the same way) helps make the man pages more readable since the
terminal will boldface and underline words the appropriate words in
the man page.
In Mac OS X, the standard pager is "less" and not "more". Unlike
"more" that only allows you to scroll forward in a manpage by pressing
<space>, less lets you scroll backwards and forward. You can type "?"
to display help text, but the standard cursor and file movement
sequences and keys for both Emacs and VI will work with "less".
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David Weintraub
qazwart gmail.com
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johnbaxterlists (apparently)
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May 19, 2008 12:18 pm
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
On May 19, 2008, at 4:23 AM, David Weintraub wrote:
> In Mac OS X, the standard pager is "less" and not "more". Unlike
> "more" that only allows you to scroll forward in a manpage by pressing
> <space>, less lets you scroll backwards and forward. You can type "?"
> to display help text, but the standard cursor and file movement
> sequences and keys for both Emacs and VI will work with "less".
In common with many modern systems, more IS less (which reverses the
old mantra when less appeared of "less is more"):
ls -li /usr/bin/less /usr/bin/more
63841 -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 254288 Sep 23 2007 /usr/bin/less
63841 -rwxr-xr-x 2 root wheel 254288 Sep 23 2007 /usr/bin/more
Note the same inode number (first column) for both. Leopard. In
Tiger, I note that less and more are the same size but are in
different inodes. Both samples are G4 Macs.
--John
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Nigel Stanger (apparently)
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May 20, 2008 3:29 am
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Re: ManOpen/OpenMan Usage
On 19/05/2008 11:23 PM, "David Weintraub" <qazwart gmail.com> spake thus:
> In Mac OS X, the standard pager is "less" and not "more". Unlike
> "more" that only allows you to scroll forward in a manpage by pressing
> <space>, less lets you scroll backwards and forward.
And if you install lesspipe, you get syntax colouring for a wide range of
languages as well. (Available through Fink.)
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Nigel Stanger, Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.
http://xri.net/=nigel.stanger
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