Peter Vamos
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Apr 15, 2008 11:25 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
Adam C. Engst wrote: To reiterate, for the most part, Eudora has been fine. Apart from a general but not troublesome increase in flakiness, ... I can confirm this. I experience (both on a PPC and on an Intel machine, Eudora sounds disabled): ¥ÊThe toolbar (horizontal, small icons only) seem to come and go randomly; ¥ some start-ups result in the endless beachball and I have to quit and launch it again
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bcrummins
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Apr 25, 2008 4:58 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
HELP
I installed Leopard and now my Eudora can NOT send any attachments. it crashes instantly!! any suggestions??
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marshall (apparently)
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Apr 26, 2008 9:29 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
bcrummins wrote:
>HELP I installed Leopard and now my Eudora can NOT send any
>attachments. it crashes instantly!! any suggestions??
Is it crashing when you use the "Attach Document" menu item?
If so, you can just drag the files into the header part of the
message to attach them.
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-- Marshall
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dr
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Apr 26, 2008 9:29 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
bcrummins wrote: HELP I installed Leopard and now my Eudora can NOT send any attachments. it crashes instantly!! any suggestions?? Does anyone expect things to get better with this program? David
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paulj (apparently)
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Apr 26, 2008 9:29 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
>HELP I installed Leopard and now my Eudora can NOT send any
>attachments. it crashes instantly!! any suggestions??
>--
How are you trying to attach files? There is a thread on TidBITS on
this topic: don't use the menu to attach a document. Drag and drop a
file (the little symbol in the title bar is all you need) onto a new
message.
HTH,
Paul
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Adam Engst
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Apr 29, 2008 5:44 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
At 1:59 PM -0700 4/14/08, David Ross wrote:
>Adam C. Engst wrote:
>>To reiterate, for the most part, Eudora has been fine. Apart from a
>>general but not troublesome increase in flakiness, ...
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>Just to toss in a comment here. To my wife and many of my business
>clients the phrase
>"but not troublesome increase in flakiness" is the same as saying
>it's broken. They live is a somewhat binary world when it comes to
>computers. Computers do what they want them to or they are broken.
To clarify, an increase in flakiness is just that, but it hasn't
really caused any significant trouble for me, and saying that Eudora
has seen an increase in flakiness makes no comment on the flakiness
level of other email programs, which would seem to be just as high,
if not higher in some cases.
cheers... -Adam
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Adam Engst
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Apr 29, 2008 5:44 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
At 9:29 AM -0700 4/26/08, dr wrote:
> HELP I installed Leopard and now my Eudora can NOT send any attachments.
> it crashes instantly!! any suggestions??
I strongly suspect that is one of the known problems that I wrote
about in the article - attaching via dragging works fine.
>Does anyone expect things to get better with this program?
No, of course not. But I do wish things would get better with the
email programs still in active development, and that hasn't yet
happened to the level that would make me want to switch away from
Eudora. :)
cheers... -Adam
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johnbaxterlists (apparently)
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Apr 30, 2008 4:18 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
On Apr 29, 2008, at 5:44 AM, Adam C. Engst wrote:
> No, of course not. But I do wish things would get better with the
> email programs still in active development, and that hasn't yet
> happened to the level that would make me want to switch away from
> Eudora. :)
Hmmm...and after Tonya showed just how easy it is to switch, too. ;-)
--John
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John C. Welch (apparently)
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May 1, 2008 8:12 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
On 4/30/08 7:18 AM, "johnbaxterlists  mac.com" <johnbaxterlists mac.com>
wrote:
>> No, of course not. But I do wish things would get better with the
>> email programs still in active development, and that hasn't yet
>> happened to the level that would make me want to switch away from
>> Eudora. :)
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> Hmmm...and after Tonya showed just how easy it is to switch, too. ;-)
Over the years, I've realized that short of a hard need that a current
application simply cannot meet, i.e. unsupported protocols, etc., email
clients are probably the most personal thing anyone uses on a Mac.
I'd say the level of personal attachment is greater than even to keyboards
or mice.
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John C. Welch
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Bonobo (apparently)
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May 1, 2008 10:56 am
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via email - Teacher for media design/operating, SW-Trainer, consultant |
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
John C. Welch schrieb:
> [..] I've realized that short of a hard need that a current
> application simply cannot meet, i.e. unsupported protocols, etc., email
> clients are probably the most personal thing anyone uses on a Mac.
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> I'd say the level of personal attachment is greater than even to keyboards
> or mice.
Definitely. Among other things, I'm a software trainer (Mac OS X,
Adobe stuff, etc.)
I've often stated that if it's possible to *feel* towards software,
i.e. if emotional terms would be applyable, that then I'd say "I love
Eudora". And I do. And Eudora is directly followed by Adobe
Photoshop. I guess I'm hopelessly geekily perverted.
Cheers, Tom
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metropical
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May 27, 2008 4:04 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
I never had the Eudora sounds engaged since I've used it,
The Attachment menu item, thus far, has worked for me. 10.5.1
I did have a crash a few weeks back that killed 80 or so messages in the in box I hadn't yet filed.
Fortunately I had a 15 day old backup prior to updated to Leo. That got back all but 25 or so I'd guess.
But I've changed some Eu settings now to leave messages on the server for 15 days, added old style '.toc" to the file and have started up Time Machine for once a day, keeping it small with only my most needed docs & Eu folder.
I hope that Odysseus is read soon.
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Nello Lucchesi
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May 27, 2008 4:04 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
It's been two weeks since I upgraded to Leopard. So far, Eudora has crashed only once. I compact my mailboxes often and hope for the best.
- nello
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Nello Lucchesi
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Jun 3, 2008 12:15 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
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Nello Lucchesi
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Jun 3, 2008 12:15 am
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
Any clue what this console message means?
6/1/08 9:50:39 PM Eudora[138] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object 0x9bceef0 of class NSCFData autoreleased with no pool in place - just leaking
Stack: (0x95768bbc 0x95695e98 0x956a78c4 0x956b4150 0x956b405c 0x5e3c044 0x5e3be64 0x64d960 0x903d4504 0x903d4a50 0x907cc614 0x907bcce4 0x907bcbec 0x907bc9f0 0x9123202c 0x3f61c4 0x3f41d4 0x55a6c8)
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jimcarr (apparently)
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Jun 3, 2008 2:23 pm
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
At 12:15 AM -0700 6/3/2008, Nello Lucchesi wrote:
>Any clue what this console message means?
>
>6/1/08 9:50:39 PM Eudora[138] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object
>0x9bceef0 of class NSCFData autoreleased with no pool in place -
>just leaking Stack: (0x95768bbc 0x95695e98 0x956a78c4 0x956b4150
>0x956b405c 0x5e3c044 0x5e3be64 0x64d960 0x903d4504 0x903d4a50
>0x907cc614 0x907bcce4 0x907bcbec 0x907bc9f0 0x9123202c 0x3f61c4
>0x3f41d4 0x55a6c8)
Nello:
Try Googling NSAutoreleaseNoPool and you will see much that only a
programmer will understand. It would appear to be a programming error.
Google is often helpful with like this. Unless the results tell you
to update something you know how to do, don't try to fix. Usually you
would message the developer but since Eudora 6.2.4 is no longer in
development, they won't fix it.
--Jim
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Lewis Butler (apparently)
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Jun 3, 2008 2:23 pm
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
On 3-Jun-2008, at 01:15, Nello Lucchesi wrote:
> Any clue what this console message means?
>
> 6/1/08 9:50:39 PM Eudora[138] *** _NSAutoreleaseNoPool(): Object
> 0x9bceef0 of class NSCFData autoreleased with no pool in place -
> just leaking Stack: (0x95768bbc 0x95695e98 0x956a78c4 0x956b4150
> 0x956b405c 0x5e3c044 0x5e3be64 0x64d960 0x903d4504 0x903d4a50
> 0x907cc614 0x907bcce4 0x907bcbec 0x907bc9f0 0x9123202c 0x3f61c4
> 0x3f41d4 0x55a6c8)
It means Eudora is not properly (for 10.5) releasing memory and/or
sockets. There is nothing you can do to fix it..
If you REALLY want to know what's going on though...
< http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/MemoryMgmt/Concepts/AutoreleasePools.html#//apple_ref/doc/uid/20000047-CJBFBEDI
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or
< http://tw3.it/22>
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Michael Hannemann
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Jun 21, 2008 2:54 pm
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
Hmm. I always use the menu to attach files, because if I drag the file in, it may be embedded in the message instead of added as an attachment, depending on the file type. Also, it used to be the case that sometimes when I dragged files in, I'd get two copies of the file, not one, attached. I saw this for quite some time (across machines and OS versions).
Currently running on MBP, 10.5.2, Eudora 6.2.4 (paid). Only complaint right now is that sometimes when switching spaces, the toolbar remains hidden. 10.5.3 may fix this, will try eventually.
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JolinWarren (apparently)
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Jun 24, 2008 2:30 pm
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
At 14:54 on 21-06-2008, Michael Hannemann wrote:
> I always use the menu to attach files, because if I drag the file
> in, it may be embedded in the message instead of added as an
> attachment, depending on the file type.
If you drop the file on the header area of the message (as opposed to
the body), the file will always be attached instead of embedded.
_________________
=> Jolin
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kalock
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Jun 24, 2008 2:39 pm
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
I am setting up a Eudora a/c for a disabled fellow. It is working fine, but in the menu bar only 'out' and 'in' boxes are labeled such. I am concerned that he will not be able to determine what the other buttons are for without labels.
I can't see a setting to fix this problem. Mac OS X 10.4.11 G4 tower.
Eudora looks fine on my Intel iMacs
Kevin
Fremantle
Western Australia
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avrum113 (apparently)
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Jun 25, 2008 1:59 pm
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Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5 (Leopard)?
Re Message #27: Re: Problems with Eudora on OS X 10.5
(Leopard)?
Posted by: kalock Date: Jun 24, 2008.
I am setting up a Eudora a/c for a
disabled fellow. It is working fine, but in the menu bar only 'out'
and 'in' boxes are labeled such. I am concerned that he will not be
able to determine what the other buttons are for without
labels.
I can't see a setting to fix this
problem. Mac OS X 10.4.11 G4 tower.
Follow this Menu trail : Eudora/Preferences/Toolbar/Buttons/ and
select Icons with names
or
:Special/Settings/Toolbar etc
<x-sigsep> --
</x-sigsep>
Avrum Lapin
Upland, CA
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