Permissions on a second internal drive

On or about 3/1/08 9:22 AM, thus spake "sgoldhargmail.com"
<sgoldhargmail.com>:

> I installed a 2nd SATA internal drive on my desktop G5, formatted it
> with Disk Utility and used it for loose files (no system).
>
> I was thinking to install Leopard on it (the original drive is
> running 10.4.11), but I am wondering if that would be problematic
> because of some weird permission problem -- it works fine with the
> user I formatted it from, but when I try to put files on it when I'm
> in a different admin user, it asks for authentication and I need to
> enter the password to access it ... even though the info panel on
> both these admin users shows that I have the same read/write access
> to the second drive.

If it's just for loose files (as seen from the place you've booted from),
then check "Ignore ownership on this volume" in the Finder's Get Info window
for it. m.

> If it's just for loose files (as seen from the place you've booted
> from),
> then check "Ignore ownership on this volume" in the Finder's Get
> Info window
> for it. m.

No, actually my intention was to install Leopard on it, I hesitated
because I didn't know if this permissions situation is a problem .

On or about 3/3/08 4:06 PM, thus spake "sgoldhargmail.com"
<sgoldhargmail.com>:

>> If it's just for loose files (as seen from the place you've booted
>> from),
>> then check "Ignore ownership on this volume" in the Finder's Get
>> Info window
>> for it. m.
>
> No, actually my intention was to install Leopard on it, I hesitated
> because I didn't know if this permissions situation is a problem .

I said "as seen from the place you've booted from". Ownership will be
ignored only when you are the user who said to ignore ownership. When you
install Leopard, or when you boot from Leopard on that volume, it won't be.
m.

--- sgoldhargmail.com wrote:

> > If it's just for loose files (as seen from the
> place you've booted
> > from),
> > then check "Ignore ownership on this volume" in
> the Finder's Get
> > Info window
> > for it. m.
>
> No, actually my intention was to install Leopard on
> it, I hesitated
> because I didn't know if this permissions situation
> is a problem .

I have a G5 Dual 1.8. It has two internal HDs, a 250
GB running 10.4.11. I recently added a 320 GB and
installed 10.5 and migrated settings. applications and
documents from 10.4.11. It doesn't matter which hard
drive I boot from, I can read/write to either drive
without any permission problems.

Marty

> I recently added a 320 GB and
>
> installed 10.5 and migrated settings. applications and
> documents from 10.4.11. It doesn't matter which hard
> drive I boot from, I can read/write to either drive
> without any permission problems.

Thanks to all who replied, I'm still wondering about S.M.A.R.T.
status or Verify / Repair Disk Permissions on the second internal
drive -- will installing the system fix that? It doesn't on external
drives --even those with bootable backups. -sg

>
Hi there,
I asked this a couple of weeks ago but maybe it got overlooked-- can
I ask again? why a second internal SATA drive does not support
S.M.A.R.T status & disk permissions repair -- is that how it should
be? And isn't it a problem if I want to use it as the startup disk?
(dual Power PC G5 desktop). TIA -- sg.

At 7:49 AM -0700 3/14/08, sgoldhargmail.com wrote:
>I asked this a couple of weeks ago but maybe it got overlooked-- can
>I ask again? why a second internal SATA drive does not support
>S.M.A.R.T status & disk permissions repair -- is that how it should
>be?

        Every internal drive of every machine I have seen in the past few
years supports SMART status, both SATA and ATA busses. I think you have a
problem here.

        Permission repair, I believe, can only be done on the boot drive -
any other drive does not have any permissions that the boot drive would
know about.


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On Mar 14, 2008, at 7:49 AM, sgoldhargmail.com wrote:

> I asked this a couple of weeks ago but maybe it got overlooked-- can
> I ask again? why a second internal SATA drive does not support
> S.M.A.R.T status & disk permissions repair -- is that how it should
> be? And isn't it a problem if I want to use it as the startup disk?
> (dual Power PC G5 desktop). TIA -- sg.

I am surprised that the disk's S.M.A.R.T. status isn't reported (I'd
be even more surprised if the drive isn't S.M.A.R.T. enabled). I'll
leave this part for others.

Is the drive a startup drive already (ie, have a proper bootable Mac
OS X installation)? If not, there aren't permissions to repair (there
are permissions, but not the repairable files and directories, OR the
information as to what the permissions should be. If you install a
system on the drive, you should then be able to repair permissions.

But repairing permissions does lots less than many people think.

See Joe Kissell's "Take Control of Maintaining Your Mac". Page 64 (in
version 1.1), neatly placed under "Things You Might Never Need to
Do". See <http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/default.html> for the Take
Control series.

   --John

On 3/14/2008 6:51 PM, "Johann Beda" wrote:
> Permission repair, I believe, can only be done on the boot drive -
> any other drive does not have any permissions that the boot drive would
> know about.

Not just the boot drive; any *bootable* volume, whether or not it's the
current boot volume. A volume just needs a valid installation of Mac OS X
(including the necessary receipts in /Library/Receipts).

See: <http://www.macworld.com/article/52220/2006/08/repairpermissions.html>