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Leopard Emerges from Beta as 10.5.2 Ships

[Tokar, Brian]Brian Tokar (apparently) - 06:48pm Feb 12, 2008 PST
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Another Leopard question not covered by this article nor Matt
Neuburg's. I still use 10.4, but I discovered something strange and
annoying recently, while helping an elderly friend who's pretty new
to computers set up his new system:

One of the first things I did (after turning off hiding of the Dock,
which was making it impossible for my friend to feel confident with
anything he was doing) was reset the Finder (as I always have on my
own systems) so that folders open in a NEW WINDOW. I've always
resented the default Windows-like behavior of OSX that makes it act
more like a web browser than a system of organized files and
folders. But in Leopard, when I changed the display of one window
from icons to a list, it automatically turned ALL the open windows
into lists. So much for the visually meaningful functionality of the
Mac OS!

Anyone find a way around this?? Will my friend have to separately set
the View Options for each window? Would that even work?!?

  


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swanksalot (apparently) - Feb 13, 2008 5:37 am (#1 Total: 8)  

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On Feb 12, 2008, at 7:48 PM, Brian Tokar wrote:

> But in Leopard, when I changed the display of one window
> from icons to a list, it automatically turned ALL the open windows
> into lists. So much for the visually meaningful functionality of the
> Mac OS!
>
> Anyone find a way around this?? Will my friend have to separately set
> the View Options for each window? Would that even work?!?

Open a window, set the view options to your preferred setting, choose
"View Options" (command - J). You'll notice a check box "Always Open
in..." (your preferred view). Click it, and the button "Use As
Defaults" at the bottom of the information window, and you won't have
to set this for every window. This preference can be overridden on a
window by window basis, useful for certain folders (I have photos in
icon view, documents in list, yadda yadda).

HTH,

Seth Anderson
www.b12partners.net/mt



Nigel Stanger (apparently) - Feb 13, 2008 5:37 am (#2 Total: 8)  

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On 13/02/2008 2:48 PM, "Brian Tokar" <Briantpshift.com> spake thus:

> Anyone find a way around this?? Will my friend have to separately set
> the View Options for each window? Would that even work?!?

Yes:

<http://arstechnica.com/reviews/os/mac-os-x-10-5.ars/12#divided>

Scroll down about a page for a discussion of exactly this issue.

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Nigel Stanger, Dunedin, NEW ZEALAND.
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jiclark - Feb 14, 2008 5:50 am (#3 Total: 8)  

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I don't have the "Use As Defaults" checkbox mentioned by Seth... Any idea why I wouldn't have that? It was driving me crazy, the new View Options behavior, but now I realize it's because I have something amiss with my installation!

Matt Neuburg (apparently) - Feb 15, 2008 5:00 am (#4 Total: 8)  

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On or about 2/14/08 4:50 AM, thus spake "jiclark" <jclarkouraynet.com>:

> I don't have the "Use As Defaults" checkbox mentioned by Seth... Any idea why
> I wouldn't have that?

Because you're in Column View? m.

raykloss (apparently) - Feb 15, 2008 5:00 am (#5 Total: 8)  

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On Thursday, February 14, 2008, at 07:08AM, "jiclark" <jclarkouraynet.com> wrote:
>I don't have the "Use As Defaults" checkbox mentioned by Seth... Any idea why I wouldn't have that? It was driving me crazy, the new View Options behavior, but now I realize it's because I have something amiss with my installation!

It is not "Use as Defaults", but the top panel of the View -> Show View Options - will have the current view as "Always open in xxxx View". This panel is not shown for the desktop folder, so make sure you are not there before doing Command-J in the finder.


Ray

jiclark - Feb 15, 2008 10:19 pm (#6 Total: 8)  

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Matt,

Can you explain why I wouldn't have that option in Column View? Why can't I make changes within a Column View window (like font size) be the default for all new windows??

Matt Neuburg (apparently) - Feb 16, 2008 4:59 am (#7 Total: 8)  

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On or about 2/15/08 9:19 PM, thus spake "jiclark" <jclarkouraynet.com>:

> Matt,
>
> Can you explain why I wouldn't have that option in Column View? Why can't I
> make changes within a Column View window (like font size) be the default for
> all new windows??

Column View isn't a view of a folder; it's a single unified browser system.
Thus there are no per-folder settings and hence no default.

What I mean to say is that in Column View you can never quite say what
folder this window is associated with. It isn't a picture of some one
folder; it's a browser for the whole file system. *Every* Finder window open
in Column View is such a browser. Hence, every Column View window is
effectively the same as every other; they all share one look, one behavior.
Thus there is no need for a default because there is nothing that is *not* a
default; there is just one look to every Column View window on your machine.

A List View window is different. It is associated with just one folder, so
it can have settings different from all other List View windows: a different
set of columns, say. We know how to preserve this - we simply show that type
of List View window when we open this folder into List View. If a folder has
no special features to its List View, we show the default List View. Thus,
List View needs a default (and has one, and you can change its appearance).

m.

ian379 - Feb 19, 2008 4:07 am (#8 Total: 8)  

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The graphics update is good. For 3D Software I'm developing it made an immediate 50% improvement framerates in OpenGL (apparently by removing a bottleneck in clearing buffers).

Not fixed is the stuttering mouse and graphics often occurring after waking from sleep. This is a nasty and very common bug that requires a restart, and leaves a strong feeling of 'Beta' for the Leopard experience. Hope 10.5.3 gets that one.

For more info see:http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=6363074&tstart=0



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