An iPod Touch question

On Jan 16, 2008, at 3:01 AM, Phil Emery wrote:

> One thing I can't seem to find out is whether or not it has a
> Calendar and Contacts application that would sync with iCal/Address
> Book.
>
> Once it has that - I can replace my Palm!
Yes it has Calendar & Contacts which sync with iCal and Address Book.
So far as I can tell it's the same application (more or less) on both
sides. You can even add a new Calendar Entry or Address Book entry on
the iTouch side and have it synch the other way. If you make
sufficient changes on the iTouch side when you sync it'll ask you
about what you want to do.

This has been in effect from at least the last iTouch update before
the one announced at MacWorld.

rich

--On January 16, 2008 3:01:12 AM -0800 Phil Emery
<philfocusedcreative.com> wrote:

> One thing I can't seem to find out is whether or not it has a
> Calendar and Contacts application that would sync with iCal/Address
> Book.
>
> Once it has that - I can replace my Palm!

I want a bump to 32GB before I'll consider moving off my 80GB iPod video.

Looks like it's time to kiss your Palm goodbye - the original iPod touch software included Calendar and Contacts which sync with iCal/Address Book.

-Neil <www.neilbert.com>

Phil inquired...

>I saw today that the iPod touch has got an upgrade -- now it has
>email and a notes function.
>One thing I can't seem to find out is whether or not it has a
>Calendar and Contacts application that would sync with iCal/Address
>Book.
>Once it has that - I can replace my Palm!

I carried an iPod Touch with me for almost 5 weeks on the road (well,
actually rail and air) in November and December , inputting information
into the iPod Touch Calendar and Contacts areas. Not lots in either but
when I returned home I sat down and synched with my primary computer and
every item I input was placed into Address Book and iCal. If it's
important to include past events in the transfer be sure to check the
appropriate box within iTunes. I used the calendar entries to track
which cities I was in during the trip and also to input information on
upcoming flights (now past flight information). As I met people in
hostels and other places I input their contact information in the
Contacts database and the information was all successfully transferred
to my Mac when I returned. My only worry would be the loss of new
information on the road if the Touch was lost or damaged while on a
trip. Being able to remotely backup the data to dot Mac without using a
computer would be a plus -maybe I should email Steve about this :-) .

Hank

am 18.01.2008 11:15 Uhr schrieb tidbits-talktidbits.com unter
tidbits-talktidbits.com:

>> One thing I can't seem to find out is whether or not it has a
>> Calendar and Contacts application that would sync with iCal/Address
>> Book.
>>
>> Once it has that - I can replace my Palm!
> Yes it has Calendar & Contacts which sync with iCal and Address Book.

Well, and what about the lots of other software running on a Palm??

On my Palm m515 I carry around several English dictionaries (Concise Oxford
...), the German Duden, dictionaries for several European languages, an
application to manage my car (costs, gas, etc.), the eReader application and
about a dozen books to be read, a conversion utitity for measurements and
other stuff to be converted, the Jfile application (which syncs perfectly
well with FileMaker Pro) with databases of my some 1,600 books, etc., etc.
etc.

When all this will be available for the iPhone or the iPod Touch then I can
give up the Palm...

Regards,

Udo

Udo Huth wrote:
> am 18.01.2008 11:15 Uhr schrieb tidbits-talktidbits.com unter
> tidbits-talktidbits.com:
>
>>> One thing I can't seem to find out is whether or not it has a
>>> Calendar and Contacts application that would sync with iCal/Address
>>> Book.
>>>
>>> Once it has that - I can replace my Palm!
>> Yes it has Calendar & Contacts which sync with iCal and Address Book.
>
> Well, and what about the lots of other software running on a Palm??
>
> On my Palm m515 I carry around several English dictionaries (Concise Oxford
> ...), the German Duden, dictionaries for several European languages, an
> application to manage my car (costs, gas, etc.), the eReader application and
> about a dozen books to be read, a conversion utitity for measurements and
> other stuff to be converted, the Jfile application (which syncs perfectly
> well with FileMaker Pro) with databases of my some 1,600 books, etc., etc.
> etc.
>
> When all this will be available for the iPhone or the iPod Touch then I can
> give up the Palm...

I'm giving my Tungsten T5 up. Sure, there are apps on my T5 that can't
be easily replaced at the moment on the iPod Touch that will replace the
Palm (although, once third party applications show up, if someone gives
me a terminal or Apple gives me Terminal and access to the command line,
that'd be a great help). But the apps that can be replaced are the ones
I'm interested in. VersaMail on the Palm is barely usable. It doesn't
display HTML mail at all well, and has a ridiculously small per message
size limit. Now that Mail exists on the Touch, the Palm can go. The
browser on the Palm, Blazer, is a joke. Since most of what I do on the
Palm is email, calendar, and text memos, an iPod Touch will be a great
replacement.

An iPod Touch will replace my T5, which replaced a T2, which replaced a
Newton Message Pad 2100. My main iPod will continue to be my 80 Gb
5.5G, while the Touch will be my PDA.

>
> Regards,
>
> Udo
>
>
>
>


--
Paul Schinder
schinderpobox.com

> When all this will be available for the iPhone or the iPod Touch
> then I can
> give up the Palm...

This may already have been covered, but the one application on my
Palm that I can not live without is PasswordStore. As its name
implies, it's an application to store passwords. Is there something
similar available for the iPod Touch (or iPhone for that matter). Of
course, I would have to find a way to transfer the data, but even if
I had to retype it once, I could live with that.

Other than games, the remaining applications I would like to find
replacements for are the airline scheduling apps I have on my
Tungsten C which come in handy when traveling.

Alfred

1Password from Agile Web Solutions has a new feature called My1Password that allows you to sync your passwords from the software on your Mac to a web-based system and then you can access it in the iPod touch's or iPhone's Mobile Safari. They say it's all encrypted and uses some fancy Javascript to keep your data safe, but you'd want to read up to make sure you're comfortable with their security.

On Jan 19, 2008, at 4:58 PM, Domenico Bettinelli Jr. wrote:

> On Jan 19, 2008, at 7:08 AM, Alfred von Campe wrote:
>
>
> This may already have been covered, but the one application
> on my
> Palm that I can not live without is PasswordStore. As its name
> implies, it's an application to store passwords. Is there
> something
> similar available for the iPod Touch (or iPhone for that
> matter). Of
> course, I would have to find a way to transfer the data, but
> even if
> I had to retype it once, I could live with that.
>
> 1Password from Agile Web Solutions has a new feature called
> My1Password that allows you to sync your passwords from the
> software on your Mac to a web-based system and then you can access
> it in the iPod touch's or iPhone's Mobile Safari. They say it's all
> encrypted and uses some fancy Javascript to keep your data safe,
> but you'd want to read up to make sure you're comfortable with
> their security.

Another 1Password possibility: you can save your passwords in a
password-protected html document, then store it on the iPod Touch
(I'm assuming you can store files on the Touch). You can't modify the
passwords, but you would have access to them.

Malcolm

> This may already have been covered, but the one application on my
> Palm that I can not live without is PasswordStore. As its name
> implies, it's an application to store passwords. Is there
> something
> similar available for the iPod Touch (or iPhone for that
> matter). Of
> course, I would have to find a way to transfer the data, but
> even if
> I had to retype it once, I could live with that.

Password Wallet from Selznick Software. Palm, iPhone, and Mac
versions . . . all sync 2 way except the iPhone which is to the iPhone
only. The database is sent to the iPhone as an encypted bookmark . . .
so I imagine it would work for the Touch as well.

1Password I tried and discarded . . . I've found Password Wallet to be
indispensable.

> 1Password from Agile Web Solutions has a new feature called
> My1Password that allows you to sync your passwords from the
> software on your Mac to a web-based system and then you can access
> it in the iPod touch's or iPhone's Mobile Safari. They say it's all
> encrypted and uses some fancy Javascript to keep your data safe,
> but you'd want to read up to make sure you're comfortable with
> their security.

I need a solution that is standalone, so this will not work for me.
I probably have around 50 entries in my PasswordStore database, and
most of them are for web sites which I access from one of my
computers, often in situations where there is no wireless access.

Alfred

--On January 20, 2008 10:09:15 AM -0800 Alfred von Campe
<alfredvon-campe.com> wrote:

> I need a solution that is standalone, so this will not work for me.
> I probably have around 50 entries in my PasswordStore database, and
> most of them are for web sites which I access from one of my
> computers, often in situations where there is no wireless access.

I use KeePass. I don't think there is an iPhone version yet, there is a
version that I use on my blackberry, plus Mac OS X, Windows and Linux
versions. Until the iPhone SDK ships I wouldn't expect much in the way of
apps getting ported just yet.

<http://www.keepassx.org/>
<http://keepass.info/>

They all use the same database file, but synchronization has to be done
manually. I usually treat the version on my Mac as read/write and the
others as read-only.

I wish it had a way to sync to/from the keychain on a mac.

Kevin

On Jan 18, 2008 1:40 PM, Paul Schinder <schinderpobox.com> wrote:
> I'm giving my Tungsten T5 up.

And, I've given up on my Palm TX. I've been using Palms since the Palm
III came out back in the late cretaceous period.

However, after constant freezes, poor software, and finally an out of
sync touch screen, I've said goodbye to Palm. Heck, it didn't even do
a very good job of syncing with my Mac or PC.

I now use my Motorola RIZR phone, and enter data via the numeric
keypad for my calendar and contacts. At least it syncs to my Mac, and
it's somewhat usable.

My birthday is coming up pretty quick, and I am thinking of getting
the iPod Touch as a PDA replacement for my Palm. WiFi is pretty
ubiquitous in New York now, so I can use many webapss where I use to
use Palm apps. And, with the release of the SDK at the end of
February, I suspect we'll see quite a few more apps turning up.

--
David Weintraub
qazwartgmail.com

If all you use a palm for is contacts, calenders, memos, etc. then switching to an iTouch is a no-brainer. However, it certainly doesn't replace my 60gb iPod (great mobile hard drive, tons of music and movies) and can't replace my palm until 3rd party applications are allowed. I use my palm extensively for medical applications downloaded and up-dated over the internet (epocrates, mobile PDR, etc). When the iTouch can meet all these requirements, I'll be first in line.

On 20-Jan-2008, at 11:09, Malcolm Westley wrote:
> Another 1Password possibility: you can save your passwords in a
> password-protected html document,

Oh wow. I've been using 1Password for ages and never knew about that.
That is very very cool.

Now, to look at the code and see how secure it really is...

On 1/21/08 at 8:17 AM, qazwartgmail.com (David Weintraub) wrote:

>On Jan 18, 2008 1:40 PM, Paul Schinder <schinderpobox.com> wrote:
>>I'm giving my Tungsten T5 up.
>
>And, I've given up on my Palm TX. I've been using Palms since the Palm
>III came out back in the late cretaceous period.

Pretty much the same here, except I'm going back even further,
to the Pilot 1000.

>However, after constant freezes, poor software, and finally an out of
>sync touch screen, I've said goodbye to Palm. Heck, it didn't even do
>a very good job of syncing with my Mac or PC.

There's still a few things I like better on the Palm vs. the
iPhone/Touch platform. The biggest thing is the lack of truly
synchronizing notes; there's also a few games I like on the Palm
platform. That said, I've been very disappointed in Palm
offerings over the last few years; everything since the original
Tungsten T/T2 has felt relatively cheaply made (and even those
didn't feel as solid as the old 505), and the new features have
been disappointing. (I thought the wireless networking would be
nice on the TX, but in practice it's turned out to be just about
useless. The problem is twofold: First, as I mentioned in my
Nokia 800 review, the Palm networking isn't built-in at a system
level, and you can't do things like installing software over the
internet. Second, the primary 'net applications, like Blazer,
are pretty sad compared to their iPhone/Touch equivalents.) I've
noticed reductions in stability in the last couple of
generations, as well. Finally, it seems like Palm's hardware
development has stagnated; the TX is the last pure PDA they've
released (and that was over two years ago!), the Treos have
changed very little, and the Centro is pretty much a warmed-over
Treo. (Which seems even harder to type on than the iPhone/Touch
is, playing around in the store.)

It's sad; I used to love Palms, and they stayed the most
Mac-friendly for the longest out of the PDAs. But unless they
pull something major out of their hat *soon* - and I mean
shipping, not announced and slipping off into limbo-land, like
Palm OS 6 - they're probably dead.

>My birthday is coming up pretty quick, and I am thinking of getting
>the iPod Touch as a PDA replacement for my Palm. WiFi is pretty
>ubiquitous in New York now, so I can use many webapss where I use to
>use Palm apps. And, with the release of the SDK at the end of
>February, I suspect we'll see quite a few more apps turning up.

If the majority of the unofficial 'jailbreak' hacked apps make
it over to the official SDK, the future there is looking pretty
good. There's a few nice games, a very nice terminal app (I hate
to say it, but it's better than the N800's, just because the
iPhone's screen keyboard is so much better than the N800's), a
nicely-done VNC client, a decent e-reader (*not* as nice as
FBReader on the N800, it doesn't handle long files very well at
all, and you have to break them up; fortunately, the HTML
versions of the Baen e-books come pre-broken into chapters), and
others I haven't had a chance to play with.

For my use, the Calender and Contacts apps are at least as good
as the Palm ones, though I've seen some complaints about
Contacts not being customizable and Calendar not having multiple
categories. The big thing I think is still missing is a Notes
function, or even just some kind of storable and viewable data,
that syncs with the desktop. We'll see if Apple finally gets the
existing Notes to sync with something on the desktop, or else
provides sync services support in the SDK so that third-parties
can do so.

I haven't seen anyone mention this yet, but the "find" functionality on the iPod Touch seems very limited, which for me is a big problem. I can't find any way to search the calendar for future events, or to search for particular content in notes or emails. Am I missing something?

Replace my Sony Clie is what I am trying to do. The iPod Touch misses a good keyboard, camera and sound recorder first of all.

Software for To Do and Notes that syncs in both directions is also missing. But the iPod Touch syncs very well with Address Book and iCal. I exported my contacts from Outlook and imported into Address Book successfully.

Outlook and Yahoo calender sync well and the iPod/iTunes synced to Yahoo very well.

Next was how to get Notes to sync. The best I can do is to use AddressBook for Notes and it works well. First Name = Note Title and Last Name with a (.) period before for sorting=.Category. New Field = Notes gives lots of space to type text.

ToDo lists works best for me as an all day event on Day 1 of each month.

Everything syncs well. Better than with the Clie in resolving conflicts. The only thing missing is a search function in iPod Contacts and cut/paste functions. And a keyboard that I can type 20 wpm. The iPod is so great for video podcasts that it mitigates what is missing.