Eudora vs. Mac's Mail

At 4:59 AM -0800 1/13/08, David Clark wrote:
>I was never able to use Eudora to successfully send messages other
>than at home on a wired permanent DSL connection with a Belkin 54g
>router/wireless device (which now works perfectly with all three Macs
>here at home). When I'd transport my MacBookPro Intel from the
>office to home and its wireless connection, I could never get the
>program configured in such a way that it would not be necessary to re-
>configure it every time I moved.

>I am told all of this is due to Internet security concerns. I
>suppose that's true, but I don't understand why an internet user
>cannot be set up with a "trusted user" automatic encrypted ID of some
>kind. Maybe that's just wishful thinking, however.

I'm not sure how your Mac Mail setup differs from your Eudora setup,
but the basic jist of it is SMTP was never intended to be a secure
authenticated protocol, it was designed back in the days where
everyone on the net more or less was willing to play by the rules.
So therefore you used to be able to relay mail through most mail
servers. If a mail server got a piece of mail that wasn't for it, it
would send it onto the correct server. However this made a really
cheap way for spammers to send spam. They'd just dump it all on one
or two servers to deliver. To also protect against spamming SMTP's
port, port 25, is often blocked, I can especially see this being the
case at hotels and the like would have issues given the number of
transient users they'd have.

IMAP (which you might be using for .Mac) includes authenticated
sending. I currently use Eudora over POP3/SMTP with Panix.com,
however I'm using authenticated SMTP (over port 2525 I believe), and
POP3 by its nature is authenticated. Both the ISP and the email
program have to support authenticated sending.

~Nick
http://www.inmff.net

It's all moot now because I gave up on Eudora. Now I use Mac Mail
for everything. It often tells me it can't send a given message
using a given server (my business account, for example), and then
asks me if I'd like to use another server; Mac Mail has a pop-down
that does this. In most cases, Earthlink lets me relay using their
servers. Dot Mac (i.e., mac.com) will not, cox.net won't, and the
ISP/hosting company won't either. But it gets through without having
to use dreaded webmail.

Dave

Dot Mac (i.e., mac.com) will not [allow use of its SMTP server]

I can send e-mail through smtp.mac.com from my cable connection using port 587, SSL, and password authentication.