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[Ploudre, Jonathan]Jonathan Ploudre - 09:22am Jan 1, 2008 PST
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Something like 10 years ago, I used Typeit4me for a while. It was
magical. I'm a relatively slow typist and I make tons of mistakes. I
could type "tt" and get "that" out of it.

Then I hit the wall: **Not every computer has Typeit4me**. The more
valuable Typeit4me became, the more frustrated I'd be typing on a
different computer.

Do most Tidbits-Talk folks use just one computer? In a typical week, I
might use 10 computers. Back in medical school, I might use 20
different computers (Mac and Windows) during a week. Even a free mac
program (the old version of Textpander 1.2, comes to mind) doesn't
match my mobility. I suspect I'm not alone.

I love the polish and quality of the 3 auto-typers we've talked about
on this list. I personally feel grateful to Riccardo Ettore and Peter
Maurer. But the fact that they are proprietary and Mac-only is a fatal
flaw. I'd take a simple program that did plain text expansion
**everywhere** over any of these in a heartbeat.

Here's my idea:

Let's make a simple mac autotyping program that inter-operates with
AutoHotKeys (an open source program on Windows).

http://www.autohotkey.com/
http://lifehacker.com/software/keyboard-shortcuts/hack-attack-knock-down-repetitive-email-with-autohotkey-159785.php

The secret sauce you'll see at the end of the second article is that
Autohotkeys can compile a small standalone program that you can
download and use on any windows computer. So I can download a small
application and, BOOM, I've got all my autotexting wherever I happen
to be on Windows. With a mac program that did the same thing I'd
essentially have universal text expansion. (I don't personally run
into many Linux machines. But these are open-source, so someone could
write a linux version. Or an iPhone version, etc).

Please contact me off-list, if you are interested in helping. You
don't need to be a programmer. That said, I need at least one
programmer who can help port a small subset of AutoHotKey's
functionality.

On list, I'd be interested in hearing a discussion of the merits and
pitfalls of the idea.

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Riccardo Ettore - Jan 3, 2008 5:31 am (#1 Total: 6)  

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Dear Jonathan,

I am thrilled to read your comment about TypeIt4Me being "magical".

Just wanted to let you and TidBITS readers know that TypeIt4Me is licensed per *user*, not per Mac. In other words, so long as you are the only person using TypeIt4Me on any given Mac (easy to ensure if you install just for your user account), you need only pay ONE single licence, yet have TypeIt4Me available on any Mac you use.

As a student or faculty, you could buy a TypeIt4Me academic licence for $14, which, at least here in London, would be the cost of three or four lattes at St**Buck$ :-)

Best wishes for the New Year,

Riccardo Ettore <http://www.typeit4me.com> "Still coding, after all these years"

Jochen Wolters (apparently) - Jan 6, 2008 4:49 am (#2 Total: 6)  

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> Let's make a simple mac autotyping program that inter-operates with
> AutoHotKeys (an open source program on Windows).
>

Considering the polish of the three major text expansion apps on the
Mac, I wonder if it wouldn't be a more feasible and more efficient
approach to write a converter utility so that you can exchange snippet
files between each of these three, and AutoHotKeys on Windows. Much
more so, since I wouldn't consider the way in how you configure the
latter anywhere near "polished", and I'm not so sure whether an
equally basic OSS tool derived from porting AutoHotKeys to the Mac
would be able to compete with the three existing solutions in its own
right.

For basic text expansion support between these apps, though, a
conversion tool could possibly be developed with comparatively little
effort "even" [1] in AppleScript.


Regards,

Jochen.


[1] - No offence intended, Sal! ;)


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RaceBuilder - Jan 9, 2008 8:14 am (#3 Total: 6)  

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You can also do this with the Clipboard storage or the Shelf of Quicksilver: <http://blacktree.com/projects/quicksilver.html> Here is a manual: <http://mysite.verizon.net/hmelman/Quicksilver.pdf>

Jonathan Ploudre - Jan 24, 2008 3:17 am (#4 Total: 6)  

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Open source replacement for Text Expander, Typeit4me and Typinator...

Hey All

Jochen wrote:

> Considering the polish of the three major text expansion apps on the
> Mac, I wonder if it wouldn't be a more feasible and more efficient
> approach to write a converter utility

And I've got a version working using TextWrangler & Text Factories

http://unchart.com/untype-0.1.zip

Of note for Mac-only users: this includes 6400 typos (about triple
Adam's recent list).

I'd be particularly appreciative if you'd give me a head's up if you
find any errors.

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Benjaloo - Feb 19, 2008 4:07 am (#5 Total: 6)  

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Fantastic notion, Jonathan. I am forced to use Windows at work, and have a Mac at home. I've been working on homogenizing my computing environment between the two, because I am constantly groaning about some thing I've found an easy to do on one and not on the other--or there's an easy way on both but it's different and I have enough on my mind without remembering two different ways to do the same thing many times over. A cross-platform app would be the best, but that's probably wishing on a star. I agree that some way of creating a uniform file format for snipplet files, or a converter, would be very much more practical. by the way, Lifehacker has created an AutoHotKey front end just for text replacement, called Texter (http://lifehacker.com/software/texter/lifehacker-code-texter-windows-238306.php). Not quite as smooth as TextExpander, but still very nice. If I could sync my snippet files--or even if I had to add changes manually from one to the other, if the file formats were compatible so all I'd have to do would be cut and paste added words between them, that would be a huge thing. I'm not a coder, so I can't offer to help with creating your adapter, but I'd be an enthusiastic user (and would certainly be happy to make a donation to support such an adapter). Benj

George Wade (apparently) - Feb 19, 2008 5:08 pm (#6 Total: 6)  

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On 19-Feb-08, at 3:07 AM, Benjaloo wrote:

> Fantastic notion, Jonathan. I am forced to use Windows at work, and
> have a Mac at home. I've been working on homogenizing my computing
> environment between the two, because I am constantly groaning about
> some thing I've found an easy to do on one and not on the other--or
> there's an easy way on both but it's different and I have enough on
> my mind without remembering two different ways to do the same thing
> many times over. A cross-platform app would be the best, but that's
> probably wishing on a star. I agree that some way of creating a
> uniform file format for snipplet files, or a converter, would be
> very much more practical. by the way, Lifehacker has created an
> AutoHotKey front end just for text replacement, called Texter
> (http://lifehacker.com/software/texter/lifehacker-code-texter-
> windows-238306.php). Not quite as smooth as TextExpander, but still
> very nice. If I could sync my snippet files--or even if I had to
> add changes manually from one to the other, if the file formats
> were compatible so all I'd have to do would be cut and paste added
> words between them, that would be a huge thing. I'm not a coder, so
> I can't offer to help with creating your adapter, but I'd be an
> enthusiastic user (and would certainly be happy to make a donation
> to support such an adapter). Benj



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