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Internet Music Sales in Canada Owlbird - 07:16am Sep 8, 2004 PSTAdam Engst's latest on the Music War/s, "Internet Music Battles Heat Up" is a topnotch report and analysis. Given the number of us affected directly by and otherwise interested in this War, Adam should win some kind of award somewhere! < http://db.tidbits.com/getbits.acgi?tbart=07802> [Ironically, I did win an award on Monday. :-) Before finishing that article, I ran and won a local 5K race, defending my title from the previous year even though I was 45 seconds slower than last year due to a lack of conditioning hanging on from health issues in the spring. Gotta love small local races when no one faster shows up. -Adam] By the way, he mentions Canada and obliquely touches for a second on Apple's oblique relationship to the digital music market here. Apple iTunes baggages its Music Store in its iTunes app and versions here, but the Music Store is nonfunctional here (so we carry a bit of dead weight when we inherit or download the iTunes app; I guess we all use it for its Library and Live Streams chiefly). Why? you may ask. Since the beginning of 2004, the Supreme Court of Canada has ruled on three separate occasions to the effect that file-sharing when not for sales/profit is thoroly legit in Canada: the precedent case covered photocopying on the free copy machine at the Great Library of a university's Law School; the second case was one in which the music industry (our version of RIAA) tried to sue end-users who upoloaded their music for free downloading by others, of digitally-recorded music not for sale/profits by such file-sharing; and the third case turned back the complaint of our national Songwriters Association (among others) in trying to exact royalties from file-sharing app providers like LimeWire. Apple's iTunes has an ever-complicating quandry in supplying music lovers within free-music Canada's healthy system, given those who are monitoring Apple's behaviours vis à vis these issues. On the other hand, Apple is not recognizing our freedom and refuses to sell to us thru Music Store in restraint of free trade to which both countries, Canada and the USA with Mexico, are signatories thru NAFTA. The legalities of the case, according to our highest court, turn on a historical legal definition of "distribution" here, something deep in our legal tradition. Back to my main point: Thanks much, Adam! Yours, Owlbird
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jsnell (apparently)
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>On the other hand, Apple is not recognizing our freedom and refuses
>to sell to us thru Music Store in restraint of free trade to which
>both countries, Canada and the USA with Mexico, are signatories thru
>NAFTA.
I fail to see how NAFTA forces all companies to offer products in all
signatory countries... "Free trade" means that those who want to
trade _can_ trade. It doesn't force companies to sell products in
other countries against their will.
Apple recognizes the freedom of Canadians just fine. But Canadians
need to realize that Apple is just as free to not sell some of their
products in Canada. Especially when there are specific legal reasons
why they can not, and larger markets elsewhere that are probably
worth more potential profit.
As always, Crazy Apple Rumors is on top of the iTunes/Canada story....
http://www.crazyapplerumors.com/archives/000292.html
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Adam Bell
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Canada, living as it does, next to the dominant supplier (and consumer) of entertainment in the world, is ever fearful that if it doesn't control the consumption of American TV and music in Canada we'll lose our "culture" (whatever that is). As a result, Canadian media are forced to include a certain fraction of "Canadian content" in their broadcasts, for example, blank CD and DVD disks are taxed an amount to support Canadian entertainers and producers of entertainment, and US satellite TV is not legally available here even though it can be received.
I have no doubt that this "defense of culture", under the control of a government body whose powers, in my view, amount to censorship, puts so many barriers in the way of ITMS, that for so small a market (33 million folks of whom roughly 25 million are anglophone) they simply don't bother. Alas.
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Avery Raskin
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Oh puhleeze spare me the conspiracy theories and armchair lawyer analyses. All Apple has to do is license the songs from the Canadian subsidiaries of the American music companies, in exactly the same way it has done elsewhere. Neither NAFTA nor SCC nor CRTC nor any other government acronym has anything to do with it. Canada is a market the size of California in terms of dollars and sense. It makes none of either for Apple to ignore it for this long, but go figure. No iTunes Music Store, no Apple Stores in malls either. Simple choice, and a bad one to boot, but theirs to make.
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Robert McGonegal (apparently)
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Oct 11, 2004 2:15 pm
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Has anyone in Canada been given an iTunes Music Store gift certificate
purchased by someone in the US? I am wondering if Apple would mind it
being redeemed by someone with an Apple i.d. registered to a Canadian
address.
robert mcgonegal
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j-beda (apparently)
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Oct 15, 2004 7:25 am
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At 2:15 PM -0700 2004/10/11, robertm-list  rmdesign.com wrote:
>Has anyone in Canada been given an iTunes Music Store gift certificate
>purchased by someone in the US? I am wondering if Apple would mind it
>being redeemed by someone with an Apple i.d. registered to a Canadian
>address.
They won't let you access any of the free downloads (such as the
political speeches) from Canada so I doubt the gift certificate would work
- maybe if you created a new Apple ID with a US address?
But maybe Canada will not have to wait much longer? Don't hold your
breath:
"Music giant readies Canadian launch
ITunes, Apple Computer Inc.'s hugely popular online music service, is
gearing up for a Canadian launch that could come as early as next month,
music industry sources say. "
< http://www.canada.com/national/nationalpost/financialpost/story.html?id=db69b6ed-dcec-4029-b3b8-425bbdc194ae>
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