It's Official: Leopard Ships on October 26th, 2007

I was surprised to see on my order using free shipping at the Apple
store, the ship date reading "DELIVERS ON OCTOBER 26TH".

On another note, the Apple online store (or Teddy's Tubes) was
troubled Tuesday evening. Lots of the little images (like the
buttons) showed up as blue-background question marks. I got through
the order process, but it clearly violated "Don't Make Me Think", and
at the end the first time I hit Edit Order--my fault, the proper
guess would be the right-hand button. (Why Apple store? To use up
iPhone credit--I don't have anything else planned before the credit
would have expired.)

   --John

I was disappointed to see that Apple has slashed education discounts
on their online Apple store:

Education prices:

OSX 10.5: $116 (A whopping $13 discount and higher than Amazon)
OSX server 10-client: $449 ($50 off)
OSX server unlimited: $899 ($100 off)

Compare this to OSX 10.4, where the prices were $79 ($50 off), $299
($200 off), and $499 ($500 off) respectively. Maybe Apple is getting
complacent with their recent surge in campus sales.

The odd thing is that our campus bookstore (UPenn) is advertising
10.5 for $79. (They haven't updated pricing information on the new
OSX server.)

So, .edu buyers may want to check with their local store first before
going to the Apple education store.

Tomoharu

Tomoharu says...

> I was disappointed to see that Apple has slashed education discounts
> on their online Apple store:

You're not the only one! There's been a lot of grumbling about this
at Cornell, and a lot of astonishment that they would so sharply
raise the price.

> The odd thing is that our campus bookstore (UPenn) is advertising
> 10.5 for $79. (They haven't updated pricing information on the new
> OSX server.)

Both institutional purchasers and education resellers are getting
Leopard at the $69 price, and resellers can set whatever price they
wish. Some don't mark it up at all.

  Mark H. Anbinder | mhatidbits.com
  Contributing Editor, TidBITS | http://www.tidbits.com/

Le 18 oct. 07 à 12:37, johnbaxterlistsmac.com a écrit :

> On another note, the Apple online store (or Teddy's Tubes) was
> troubled Tuesday evening. Lots of the little images (like the
> buttons) showed up as blue-background question marks. I got through
> the order process, but it clearly violated "Don't Make Me Think", and
> at the end the first time I hit Edit Order--my fault, the proper
> guess would be the right-hand button. (Why Apple store? To use up
> iPhone credit--I don't have anything else planned before the credit
> would have expired.)

As Lionel of Macbidouille.com http://www.macbidouille.com/news/
2007-10-18/#15154 (translated into hardmac in English) reported,
Apple has moved the Applestore into AJAX, and it's heavy and slow…
Nobody thought of bandwidth waste.

libraries and script 143 KB
Pics in .png so heavier than in other formats

Plus there's now possibilities of changes on the run, so no more
closings for updates, so accidents may happen.

Denis H]
440network.com
MacMusic.org

On 18-Oct-2007, at 04:40, Tomoharu Nishino wrote:
> I was disappointed to see that Apple has slashed education discounts
> on their online Apple store:
>
> OSX 10.5: $116 (A whopping $13 discount and higher than Amazon)

[snip]

> The odd thing is that our campus bookstore (UPenn) is advertising
> 10.5 for $79.

This is quite likely right. The education discount is trivial to
get. I know, we bought the MacPro with it and though my wife does
qualify, there was absolutely no verification whatsoever. That is to
say, I could have easily done it had we NOT qualified.

So, my guess is the online store will be higher than the actual
university stores.

On 10/18/07 4:37 AM, "johnbaxterlistsmac.com" <johnbaxterlistsmac.com>
wrote:

> (Why Apple store? To use up
> iPhone credit--I don't have anything else planned before the credit
> would have expired.)

There is no expiration date on the iPhone $100.00 credit, only that it's
requested by 30 November according to apple.com. karen

On 10/19/07 2:35 PM, "Mark H. Anbinder" <mhatidbits.com> wrote:

> Tomoharu says...
>
>> I was disappointed to see that Apple has slashed education discounts
>> on their online Apple store:
>
> You're not the only one! There's been a lot of grumbling about this
> at Cornell, and a lot of astonishment that they would so sharply
> raise the price.

Maybe it's because of morons like this guy:
<http://www.yourmaclifeshow.com/?q=node/1555>
--
Shawn King
Host/Executive Producer
Your Mac Life
http://www.yourmaclifeshow.com

> I was disappointed to see that Apple has slashed education discounts on their online Apple store:
>

I ordered my copy from the Apple store as soon as Leopard was announced. I too was disappointed that the educational discount was only 10%. Perhaps I should have waited since there was no need to order it on the first day anyway. Oh, well ...



> was surprised to see on my order using free shipping at the Apple store, the ship date reading "DELIVERS ON OCTOBER 26TH".
>

I noticed that also. I'm not holding my breath. They must have meant "SHIPPING on October 26th."

Ryoichi Morita

On Oct 20, 2007, at 08:45, Ryoichi Morita wrote:

> I noticed that also. I'm not holding my breath. They must have
> meant "SHIPPING on October 26th."

Usually they ship it Thursday by overnight so it actually will arrive
on the appointed day. The important thing to remember is either be
home to sign for delivery or leave a signed note for the fedex/ups/
whoever guy to leave the package. Sometimes they'll leave it . . .
sometimes they won't.

On Oct 20, 2007, at 5:45 AM, Ryoichi Morita wrote:

> I noticed that also. I'm not holding my breath. They must have
> meant "SHIPPING on October 26th."

I seem to recall with earlier versions of OS X that Apple did indeed
deliver on the release date. In fact, some people received their copy
early when it took less time in transit than expected.

On Oct 20, 2007, at 7:45 AM, Ryoichi Morita wrote:

> I noticed that also. I'm not holding my breath. They must have
> meant "SHIPPING on October 26th."

If I remember correctly, in the past I've ordered the family pack
once announced by Apple and they shipped it such that it was
delivered on the day or the day after it was available in stores. So
they ship it based on expected delivery times and it encourages
people to pre-order if they wish to ensure they will have it in their
hands at the earliest possible with the convenience of having it
delivered to their door.

Jeffrey

On Oct 22, 2007, at 6:54 AM, Jeffrey McPheeters wrote:

>
>> I noticed that also. I'm not holding my breath. They must have
>> meant "SHIPPING on October 26th."
>
> If I remember correctly, in the past I've ordered the family pack
> once announced by Apple and they shipped it such that it was
> delivered on the day or the day after it was available in stores. So
> they ship it based on expected delivery times and it encourages
> people to pre-order if they wish to ensure they will have it in their
> hands at the earliest possible with the convenience of having it
> delivered to their door.

That is my recollection as well. However, this time around Apple
squeezed the time between announcement and ship date quite a bit.

I don't yet--Monday 11:20 AM PDT--have my shipping notification from
Apple. For standard shipping I should have that today or tomorrow
(or Wednesday at the latest, depending on origin point) for Friday
delivery.

It's too soon to tell.

   --John

On Oct 18, 2007, at 6:40 AM, Tomoharu Nishino wrote:

> I was disappointed to see that Apple has slashed education discounts
> on their online Apple store:

On a related note I recently had reason to go to a local Apple retail
store on a service issue. While there I was looking at some Apple
software. I was told that if I wanted to use my student discount for
anything but hardware (and excluding the iPod) I would have to order
on line. I questioned this since when I bought my iBook using my
student discount I did buy software with discount. I was told this
was a recent change.

I am a student with appropriate ID but my educational institution
does not sell any computers nor related items for any OS. Annoying to
say the least and I'm more likely to use another source - ie Amazon
since no sales tax usually brings it in a few dollars less.

Jean