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Cell phones as driving distraction

[Engst, Adam]Adam Engst - 02:39am Jul 18, 2007 PST

At 2:31 AM -0700 7/17/07, Google Kreme wrote:
>On 16-Jul-2007, at 13:43, John W Baxter wrote:
>>(all the reported studies say that the distraction from the process
>>of talking on the phone is as dangerous as the distraction from
>>dialing the phone and holding it).
>
>Are these distractions any more than having a passenger in the car
>and talking to them?
>
>How about the distraction of talk-radio?
>
>I bet not.

I find myself in agreement with the studies that talking on cell
phones while driving is highly distracting, and significantly more so
than talking to another person in the car or listening to talk radio.
I base this somewhat on personal anecdotal experience, but largely on
what I learned while ghost-writing the late Cary Lu's "The Race for
Bandwidth" book.

The problem is basically that a cell phone conversation is a very low
bandwidth communication channel, with significantly less bandwidth
available than for POTS (plain old telephone system) calls. That's
why calls break up, voices are hard to understand, and so on. And
even when the voice on the other end is clear and continuous, the
audio range is significantly limited.

Now, whenever you're faced with a difficult-to-interpret audio
signal, your brain responds by doing a great deal more processing. If
someone you're speaking with isn't speaking clearly, for instance,
you'll look more intently at their face, in essence adding visual lip
reading to what you're hearing; your brain combines the information
so you can better understand what you're hearing. With cell phone
conversations, it's common to see people plugging the ear not being
used for the phone to block out distracting external noises; in
essence, they're subconsciously trying to devote more brain power to
decoding the cell conversation. I've even found myself closing my
eyes when trying to distinguish particular words that are difficult
to distinguish.

As a result, it simply makes sense that if your brain is being forced
to do a great deal of audio processing, it will have somewhat less
attention for driving. I'm sure people can learn the skill of driving
while talking on the phone - repetition will improve nearly any
activity - but I have no doubt that talking on a cell phone is a
notable distraction for many.

What about the situation where you're talking with someone else in
the car? There are two huge differences. First, the amount of
bandwidth is huge - the audio quality of someone sitting next to you
is many times that of a telephone call. Second, and more important,
if the person in question is an adult, they can (and usually will)
adjust their speaking to the driving conditions. An aware companion
will stop talking if the driver needs to navigate an unfamiliar area,
or if there's a traffic hazard approaching. Driving with an unaware
companion, such as a screaming baby, would thus be much worse.

How about the radio? Again, the bandwidth is generally higher, and
the audio quality generally improved by being sent through car
speakers. But what's key with radio is that it's a one-way
transmission. You must still process the incoming audio, but there's
no need or expectation that you'll reply, and the informational value
of the content is generally low. In other words, you can tune out the
radio to concentrate on driving for seconds or minutes with no
downside. And of course, you can always shut it off - you're in
complete control of the one-sided conversation without even the need
for social niceties (it's rude to just hang up on someone, but no
radio host is bothered if they're turned off :-)).

So again, with the acknowledgement that anyone can practice talking
on the phone while driving to improve their driving-while-talking
skills, it seems quite clear to me that it does detract from
attention paid to the road, and more so than either a companion in
the car or listening to the radio. Improving the physical situation
by using a headset and voice dialing rather than holding and dialing
the phone will also help, but only so far.

cheers... -Adam

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mike.millard (apparently) - Jul 20, 2007 2:50 am (#16 Total: 35)  

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Cell Phones as Driving Distraction

Adam, I could not agree more!

I don't have a cell/mobile phone, but have felt for a long time that
many mobile phone conversations can involve interaction that requires
a lot of brain work, that should really be devoted to driving.

Mike Millard,
West Vancouver.

kgani (apparently) - Jul 24, 2007 1:05 am (#17 Total: 35)  

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In Denmark, you can lose your drivers license if you talk on an
ordinary mobile phone while driving. (in severe cases only - normally
you will just get at fine). You are allowed to use hands-free phones,
though.

Spending "brain-CPU-time" for your hands holding your phone while
driving will decrease the "CPU-time" for other stuff, of course.

I regularly spend time talking with a friend of mine on a hands-free
set, and every time I talk to him that way, it feels like if he is
speaking at half-speed because he has to notice the traffic at the
same time. I could easily imagine how anybody intelligent would sound
stupid etc. if the person was having a conversation on a mobile phone
while driving.

Best,

Kim

Austin Ziegler (apparently) - Jul 24, 2007 1:05 am (#18 Total: 35)  

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On 7/20/07, Ray Kloss <rayklossmac.com> wrote:
> This subject always seems to bring up the idea with people that some
> people have problems talking on their phones, "but not me." Many
> people recognize that other drivers appear distracted, drive too slow,
> or take longer to make decisions- all while they are on the phone. But
> since they feel in control, they cannot imagine that they would
> suceptable to the same multitracking errors that have been found in
> studies of other drivers.

I'm certainly susceptible to multitasking errors; everyone is. What I
know is that when I'm driving without the cellphone, I am either
listening to the radio or my iPod (usually a little too loud, I'm
sure); switching stations to hear periodic traffic reports, or my mind
is wandering *while* driving. This isn't a revelation—everyone does
it. On long trips, I often found myself doing math mentally while
driving (usually calculating my current speed + distance to go = time
remaining).

The difference is that if one *recognises* that you're multitasking
and adjust your focus to deal with that, you're much less likely to
make errors.

But everyone multitasks while driving. You have to just to be able to drive.

-austin

edward (apparently) - Jul 24, 2007 1:05 am (#19 Total: 35)  

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At 12:46 07/20/07 -0700, Dan Frakes wrote:
>if someone is driving erratically or dangerously,
>it's a good bet they're talking on the phone.

Reminds me of the song The Speculator, by Lou and Peter Berryman. The
relevant passage begins

When you're nearly hit by a yuppie little twit
With his god-forsaken noggin on the phone

It's a bit long to quote in full here, but read it at

http://members.aol.com/berrymanp/alyrics/44spec.html

(the last two stanzas). It's available on ITMS. Highly recommended.

Edward
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Lewis Butler (apparently) - Jul 24, 2007 1:05 am (#20 Total: 35)  

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On 19-Jul-2007, at 08:45, hank.harken wrote:
> Lewis opined...
> Are these distractions any more than having a passenger in
> the car and
> talking to them? I highly doubt it. How about the distraction
> of talk-radio?
> I bet not.
>
> There are big differences between these and having an active
> conversation on a cell phone.

Everyone seems to give far more attention to a cell phone
conversation than I do. The most distraction a cell phone will cause
me is that I might miss my exit. This happens if I am listening to
the radio (actually listening, not just having it on) or I am having
a conversation with a passenger. I have no problem 'dropping' the
conversation if road conditions warrant it.

Lewis Butler (apparently) - Jul 24, 2007 1:05 am (#21 Total: 35)  

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On 20-Jul-2007, at 03:50, David Burns wrote:
> I heard a guy on the radio the other day cite a Virginia Tech study
> that found that the most dangerous driving distractions were 1)
> conversations with someone in the car, 2) eating while driving, and 3)
> cell phone use. At least this is my recollection.

I believe that, and in that order. Well, eating may be #1. And the
only reason that mobiles are so high, I think, is because most people
drive one handed whilst on the phone.

The trouble with eating while driving is that your doing something
else with your hands AND diverting your attention from the road. I
like foods I can reach for 'blind' while driving. Trail mix is
good. Fries are good. Burgers, especially large ones, are bad.

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I have been completely unapologetic in my disapproval of people talking on the phone while driving ever since a dignified looking gentleman in a great big SUV gunned his engine and accelerated straight at me as I crossed in front of him as a stop sign. When I smacked on his hood and he snapped to awareness just short of knocking me over, the look of shock on his face as he put down his cell phone told me this was no ordinary lapse in concentration - he had been so absorbed in his conversation that he had completely tuned out his surroundings as he accelerated his giant battering ram of a vehicle. There is no way anyone will ever convince me that his cell phone usage was not the direct cause of his nearly killing me... other than being stone drunk (which I ascertained he wasn't during the ensuing argument) there is no other way someone could be staring straight ahead yet still be that incredibly inattentive while driving.

Fortunately, as a native New Yorker, I have an innate ability to curse a blue streak the likes of which most people here in California have never heard. I guarantee you, that man has still not forgotten the tongue lashing I gave him. Honest mistakes or accidents are one thing, but I don't like almost killed because of someone's sheer stupidity.

ShawnKing (apparently) - Jul 24, 2007 8:21 am (#23 Total: 35)  

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On 7/24/07 4:05 AM, "Google Kreme" <gkremegmail.com> wrote:

> most people drive one handed whilst on the phone.

Most people drive one-handed....period....
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rjmorita (apparently) - Jul 25, 2007 2:30 am (#24 Total: 35)  

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> Fortunately, as a native New Yorker, I have an innate ability
> to curse a blue streak the likes of which most people here in
> California have never heard. I guarantee you, that man has
> still not forgotten the tongue lashing I gave him.
>

This is off-topic but you have to be very, very careful when you choose to get into an argument with another driver in this day and age.

We frequently hear about people getting killed as the result of road rages. You never know how they may react.

As tempting as it may be to curse at another driver (I have to admit I've done that on a few occasions), it's not worth losing your life over it.

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JolinWarren (apparently) - Jul 25, 2007 2:30 am (#25 Total: 35)  

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At 08:21 on 24-07-2007, Shawn King wrote:
>> most people drive one handed whilst on the phone.
>
> Most people drive one-handed....period....

Maybe in the US, but not in most of the world where the majority of
cars are manual transmission. So trying to hold a phone is even more
of a distraction!

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Hamilton Richards - Jul 25, 2007 2:30 am (#26 Total: 35)  

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Kupietz's near-death experience at the hands of a cell-phoning driver is a classic example of "sustained inattentional blindness" (SIB).

This study from Yale: <http://journalofvision.org/3/9/156/> is one of many that demonstrate how cell-phone use dramatically increases the incidence of SIB. Its conclusion: "visual *awareness* is particularly impaired by cellphone conversations."

Of course SIB is probabilistic-- it doesn't affect everyone the same, nor does it affect any given person the same all the time. Reasonable people play it safe and avoid cell-phoning while driving, while compulsive yakkers continue in denial until the odds catch up with them.

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On Tuesday, July 24, 2007, at 11:12AM, "Shawn King" <shawnyourmaclifeshow.com> wrote:
>On 7/24/07 4:05 AM, "Google Kreme" <gkremegmail.com> wrote:
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>> most people drive one handed whilst on the phone.
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>Most people drive one-handed....period....

But with a hand free, you can go to two hands when needed. i think most people alternate with dominate hand and let go and use the non-dominant at times. With a cell phone, you can't use two hands (and people don't drop phones except in dire emergencies). Add a stick to that (I've seen that) and you have a recipe for a mess.

Ray

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On Jul 20, 2007, at 5:50 AM, kevinvanhaaren.net wrote:

> Got to say the worst I've ever seen was a previous boss i had that
> answered blackberry e-mail while driving. I pretty much had to yell at
> him to get him to stop while i was in the car.

This reminds me of the long deceased rock 'n' roll personality who
took an electric guitar into the hot tub.

Marilyn

Lewis Butler (apparently) - Jul 25, 2007 2:30 am (#29 Total: 35)  

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On 24-Jul-2007, at 09:21, Shawn King wrote:
> On 7/24/07 4:05 AM, "Google Kreme" <gkremegmail.com> wrote:
>> most people drive one handed whilst on the phone.
>
> Most people drive one-handed....period....

True, but if the second hand is EMPTY, it's not a big deal. When
that second hand is holding something, be it mobile phone, burger,
44oz Big Gulp™, or PDA, it's much more of an issue.

George Wade (apparently) - Jul 27, 2007 8:24 am (#30 Total: 35)  

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Hamilton Richards wrote:
> Kupietz's near-death experience at the hands of a cell-phoning driver is a classic example of "sustained inattentional blindness" (SIB).
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> This study from Yale: <http://journalofvision.org/3/9/156/>
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> continue in denial until the odds catch up with them.

How do professional emergency crews deal with this problem ? Taxi
drivers ?

They must be trained in communicating while driving !

Compulsive yakkers and people who really do suffer from SIB must be put
into non-driving / communicating positions ! While taxi drivers who
crash once too often find out the hard way...

As it would be too expensive and discriminatory to license cell phone
users as trained drivers, with a cell phone provision if they pass a
"Multi-Tasking with Cell Phone" aptitude test - - - we should all stop
arguing and just pull over safely to answer cell phones.

George

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Jolin M Warren wrote:
> At 08:21 on 24-07-2007, Shawn King wrote:
>>> most people drive one handed whilst on the phone.
>>
>> Most people drive one-handed....period....
>
> Maybe in the US, but not in most of the world where the majority of
> cars are manual transmission. So trying to hold a phone is even more
> of a distraction!
>
This brings up an interesting point. To some degree I feel I'm a better driver than I would have been otherwise as I learned on a column shift manual transmission truck with power nothing. Turning a corner while shifting and braking is a skill which most modern drivers will never master these days. And clutch column shifting is HARD compared to console shifting. You have to deal with arms rotating different objects in the same planes in different directions, speeds, etc... You HAD to practice.

So I wonder (and have for a long time) if we're not making it easier to drive easy situations but since people are in many ways guiding more than driving, they are not really paying as much attention as in the "good old days". (And as my grandmother said, the best things about the good old days is they are GONE!)

As to distractions, has anyone looked inside of a police care lately? The passenger seat here in Raleigh (next to the driver) looks more automated than most offices with laptops, radios, cell phones, file cabinets, etc.... I give police cars lots of "spacing".

David

PS: I actually learned to drive on a home made lawnmower with a 9 speed transmission then moved up to a small farm tractor. Automobiles seemed easy.



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George Wade inquired...

>How do professional emergency crews deal with this problem ? Taxi
>drivers ?

Then stated...

>They must be trained in communicating while driving !

Probably true for the emergency crews but also likely the driver isn't
on the radio at all but the guy "riding shotgun" is doing the talking.
Also, these people are NOT carrying on sustained conversations.

When I served in the US Army a very long time ago officers were not
permitted to drive military vehicles at many bases and I suspect this
hasn't changed. One infantry division wouldn't even allow officers, with
one particular exception, to obtain a military drivers license. The reasoning
was that the officer was supposed to be thinking, planning, communicating
(usually on a radio) and directing. Driving a vehicle, while requiring
important
skills, was done by a PFC. I can tell you that reading a topographical map in
daylight is tough enough in a moving vehicle. That mentioned exception
in that specific infantry division was the assistant division commander,
a brigadier general - one star - who had overall responsibility for the
division's
wheeled and tracked vehicle maintenance systems, processes and parts supply
system. When a general says he wants a drivers license...

Then David said...

>As to distractions, has anyone looked inside of a police care lately?

A few years ago I was stopped at a red light behind a police car and,
as the light was changing, I witnessed one of the most flagrant examples
of red light "running". I was shocked to see no response from the
police vehicle. Later I had a chance to ask another officer about this and
his response was to say the officer in the vehicle was probably checking
his onboard computer screens at the time. Our city police patrols
with one officer to a vehicle. I guess the days of Car 54 and Adam 12
are long gone (smile) but certainly the one officer model allows
better coverage.

Referring back to the military example, some vehicles required multiple
radio sets, each tuned to a different "net" which needed to be monitored.
I don't know current practices but a field artillery battery's fire direction
center (FDC) in a vehicle would have at least two, one for general
communications within its battalion and another for receiving artillery
fire mission requests. Things got a lot more complicated at the battalion
level where the "fire nets" of the battalion's three batteries, the
battalion's
command net, the supported unit's net and others needed to be monitored.
If the whole show is moving, literally and figuratively, it demands a lot of
attention. In the military situation you often have multiple people following
this and certainly not the driver. In the police situation, it must be
incredibly
demanding but, in both examples, these are not sustained conversations.
Radio communication is crippled if messages are not short and to the
point. You can't have more than one person transmitting.

On the subject of driving distractions, one of the scariest things I ever
witnessed was a car that entered an intersection at a good rate of speed
and against the light several seconds after it turned red, barely being missed
by cars which now had the green light. As the car zoomed through the
intersection
I saw a man and a woman in it having a heated argument. They weren't
even looking at the road but shouting and gesturing at each other.

- Hank


micvil (apparently) - Jul 31, 2007 2:23 pm (#33 Total: 35)  

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27 jul 2007 kl. 17.24 skrev George Wade:

> How do professional emergency crews deal with this problem ? Taxi
> drivers ?

I've been a taxi driver, and the situation sometimes can be really
messy. Imagine driving (sometimes even "with a stick") with other
persons in the car which you've never met and often (at least here in
Sweden) wants a conversation and at the same time finding the perfect
route (you're a professional taxi driver, huh?) in neighbourshoods
you often only know vaguely. I've done this with a stick and at the
same time being supposed to both listening (and sometimes replying)
to the old comm radio with really bad sound quality AND keeping an
eye on the new computerised communication system (to get important
messages and to know how to find the next customer as quickly as
possible after the present one). The taxi has one phone, and then
there's the private one...

How did we deal with the problem? No training, just trial and error...

/Michael

George Wade (apparently) - Aug 1, 2007 7:17 am (#34 Total: 35)  

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While walking in the park, yesterday, I spotted a patrol car full of
communications gear, as usual.

Asking about cell phones distracting the professional driver, I at first
got a vague reply. So I suggested the trainers might know the answer.

That hit a point, which was that there is a careful selection process
involving tests for the job: multitasking and performing under
stress... and many more...

So your professional patrol car drivers, anyway, have been selected to
be trainable in multitasking for communications while driving.

George

rmeadors (apparently) - Aug 2, 2007 2:43 am (#35 Total: 35)  

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I used to talk on the radio, listen to the radio, drive, write, observe pretty much all around me and eat all at the same time. Never had an accident while doing any of that. It can be done but not all can do it.



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