Mac OS 8.6 and 10.3.4 co-existing

At 9:33 on 2-7-04, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> So I want to scrap 9 and replace it with 8.6.

You need to keep the OS 9 "Startup Disk" control panel (the most
recent version that you can find). This will ensure that you can
switch between OS 8.6 & OS X.

> But should I keep 9's Disk First Aid utility?

If you are going to run Disk First Aid in OS 8.6, I would keep OS 9's
Disk First Aid and use that one. I don't know for sure that the OS
8.6 version would cause problems, but better safe than sorry (there's
no reason not to use the OS 9 version).

> Would 8.6's First Aid screw parts of X (I've no idea, but I'm
> worried if 8.6 crashes and runs it's disk utility automatically
> after restating will it cause problems?

As far as the disk utility running automatically on startup, go to
the "General Controls" control panel and un-tick the box marked
"Check disk if computer was shut down improperly." Actually, I seem
to remember that in 8.x this option was labelled something like "Warn
me if the computer was shut down improperly." (I only have OS 9
around, so can't check the exact working). In any case, make sure
that the box next to this option is not ticked.

Hope that helps (and maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can
fill in the details on whether it's safe to use Disk First Aid).

Cheers,
Jolin

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=> Jolin Warren, Edinburgh, Scotland

Jolin M Warren <JolinWarrenOakAndApple.org> wrote:

> At 9:33 on 2-7-04, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
> > So I want to scrap 9 and replace it with 8.6.
>
> You need to keep the OS 9 "Startup Disk" control panel (the most
> recent version that you can find). This will ensure that you can
> switch between OS 8.6 & OS X.

Righto. Startup Disk CP and Apple First Aid. Anything else I ought to
keep from 9?

> > But should I keep 9's Disk First Aid utility?
>
> If you are going to run Disk First Aid in OS 8.6, I would keep OS 9's
> Disk First Aid and use that one. I don't know for sure that the OS
> 8.6 version would cause problems, but better safe than sorry (there's
> no reason not to use the OS 9 version).
>
> > Would 8.6's First Aid screw parts of X (I've no idea, but I'm
> > worried if 8.6 crashes and runs it's disk utility automatically
> > after restating will it cause problems?
>
> As far as the disk utility running automatically on startup, go to
> the "General Controls" control panel and un-tick the box marked
> "Check disk if computer was shut down improperly." Actually, I seem
> to remember that in 8.x this option was labelled something like "Warn
> me if the computer was shut down improperly." (I only have OS 9
> around, so can't check the exact working). In any case, make sure
> that the box next to this option is not ticked.
>
> Hope that helps (and maybe someone more knowledgeable than me can
> fill in the details on whether it's safe to use Disk First Aid).
>
> Cheers,
> Jolin

Yeah, that makes good sense, I'll do that. Thanks.

So has anyone actually done what I'm planning? Did 8.6 happily co-exist
with 10.3.4? I recall reading early X beta Apple info that you could use
either 8.6 _or_ 9.X as the classic environment. Was this in fact the
case? I'm assuming 8.6 support was later dropped with a later revision
(which one - anyone know?). The upshot of all this is I'm hoping it
means 8.6 will play nicely installed on a X partition (but _not_ used
for classic) without trashing my X install or the disk in general.

Can anyone verify this? This is not to say I won't take a risk or two,
I'm just a bit sick of installing software and dealing with backups
right now. June was an 'interesting' month for me, but I could do with a
little less adventure right now. Oh, forget I said that. The hell with
it! What kind of a geek am I if I fear re-installing and configuring two
or three systems. I'm ashamed of myself...

Regards,
 Jamie Kahn Genet
--
Frog blast the vent core!

On Jul 2, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:

> Can anyone tell me if there are any issues I ought to be aware of
> having
> an 8.6 system folder in the same partition as my 10.3.4 system?

Provided you don't have another "Classic" system folder on that same
partition, you should have no problems at all. As far as Disk First Aid
goes, I'd use Disk Utility in X to handle that sort of thing, as it
will be up to date with the latest HD drivers.

--Nik

Nik <gerberinik.net> wrote:

> On Jul 2, 2004, at 10:33 AM, Jamie Kahn Genet wrote:
>
> > Can anyone tell me if there are any issues I ought to be aware of
> > having
> > an 8.6 system folder in the same partition as my 10.3.4 system?
>
> Provided you don't have another "Classic" system folder on that same
> partition, you should have no problems at all. As far as Disk First Aid
> goes, I'd use Disk Utility in X to handle that sort of thing, as it
> will be up to date with the latest HD drivers.
>
> --Nik

That's reassuring. So assuming I don't use any low level classic
utilities everything should be ok - that seems to be the verdict :-)
Whew! Mac OS 9 is really pissing me off. Even Civilisation II doesn't
respond the same (minor screen flicker as view moves - annoying and
distracting), let alone more serious troubles.

Regards,
 Jamie Kahn Genet