I lived through Daylight Saving 2007 and survived!

David Weintraub (apparently) - 09:49am Mar 13, 2007 PST
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I made it through Daylight Savings okay. About a decade ago, I was
manually changing over 3 or 4 dozen clocks throughout the house, and
I was getting use to everything with a clock being smart enough to
change itself.

I thought the breakdown would be interesting:

* Macs: I have Tiger and they had no problems with switching over to
Daylight Savings. Everything seems fine and iCal had no problems.
* Linux: My son's notebook looked like the change over went rather
smooth, but sometimes after waking up after the screen saver, the old
standard time shows up. Still attempting to track down this issue.
According to the boards, he's not the only one.
* Palm PDA. Yup, I still have one of those. I had to go into the time
and manually reset the start and stop day of DST in the various
cities I use. After that, the change over went fine. I have another
program called Zman III which calculates sunset times, and that
required a database update. Otherwise no problems.
* Cellphone: My phone is suppose to get the time from T-Mobile, but
their network time is still as of this writing off by an hour. I had
to manually set my phone's time.

Now last, but not least: Windows...

Windows proved the most problematic for a variety of reasons. Our
Windows machines were fine, but Outlook's events were all off by an
hour. We ran a little utility to straighten out those times. Mac's
iCal didn't have these issues. Why did Microsoft? However, the really
big problem is that Windows XP apparently can only handle a single
DST changeover slot. Our source control system started popping up
errors when we updated our Windows systems a few weeks ago. DST in
past years is now showing up incorrectly.

Fixing our source control system was a minor inconvenience, but a lot
of financial shops are not too happy because historic equity pricing
is messed up. For an entire month in each year, the historical
closing and opening prices are incorrect. The problem is really
minor. No one is going bankrupt because of this, but it is
frustrating. Companies are concerned about regulatory issues.

David Weintraub

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sfrench - Mar 13, 2007 9:51 am (#1 Total: 6)

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Re: I lived through Daylight Saving 2007 and survived!

After I installed Apple's Daylight Saving Update (for Panther), my events in Entourage 2004 (updated to 11.3.4) were off by an hour. But only in the calendar display. When the event itself was opened, the
times were correct.

I discovered that the time-zone preference in Entourage was set for Perth rather than Hong Kong, where I live. I don't think it was set for Perth prior to the Apple update.

I have now set it for Hong Kong, and this seems to take care of the display problem for new events. Preexisting events are still displayed improperly. Anyone know how to fix this? Thanks.

johnbaxterlists (apparently) - Mar 14, 2007 11:28 am (#2 Total: 6)

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Re: I lived through Daylight Saving 2007 and survived!

On Mar 13, 2007, at 9:51 AM, David Weintraub wrote:

> * Linux: My son's notebook looked like the change over went rather
> smooth, but sometimes after waking up after the screen saver, the old
> standard time shows up. Still attempting to track down this issue.
> According to the boards, he's not the only one.

Just saying "Linux" these days doesn't define the system very well.
Which distribution? Current version with updates?

> * Palm PDA. Yup, I still have one of those. I had to go into the time
> and manually reset the start and stop day of DST in the various
> cities I use. After that, the change over went fine. I have another
> program called Zman III which calculates sunset times, and that
> required a database update. Otherwise no problems.

My old, leaked address (specific to Palm) with which I registered my
long unused Palm actually got the first message from a piece of Palm
(Palm Inc--whatever piece that is these days) announcing an update.
That came this morning. First message from Palm to the address in
several years--after a few thousand intervening spam messages. I've
been using the address as a spam honeypot. (To be fair, the
registration was long ago, so Palm *may* not have violated any
agreement.)

--John

robbycutler - Mar 21, 2007 12:06 pm (#3 Total: 6)

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Re: I lived through Daylight Saving 2007 and survived!

With the correct time of 4 am showing in the menu bar/system preferences of my Core Duo iMac the morning of the switch to Daylight Saving time, any file I saved in Logic Express listed a time in the Finder one hour ahead of the correct time. At the same time, files I saved in GarageBand listed the correct time. After putting the computer to sleep for eight hours, Logic Express returned to saving files at the correct time.

David Weintraub (apparently) - Mar 22, 2007 2:21 pm (#4 Total: 6)

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Re: I lived through Daylight Saving 2007 and survived!

I didn't survive as well as I thought...

On my Windows XP PC, my Palm stopped sync'ing to Outlook. I didn't
realize this until the other day when I noticed that one particular
appointment wasn't showing up on my Palm's calendar. I then noticed
that the conducts for Outlook were off and wouldn't turn back on
because the conducts wouldn't support my version of Outlook.

I did an "outlook /resetfolders", but no good, and then I downloaded
some software from Palm that was suppose to fix it, and now I can't
even get my Palm to do any sync'ing to my PC. I may have to uninstall
and reinstall everything.

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kevinv (apparently) - Mar 24, 2007 12:55 pm (#5 Total: 6)

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Re: I lived through Daylight Saving 2007 and survived!

--On March 22, 2007 2:21:06 PM -0700 David Weintraub <david

weintraub.name>
wrote:

> On my Windows XP PC, my Palm stopped sync'ing to Outlook. I didn't
> realize this until the other day when I noticed that one particular
> appointment wasn't showing up on my Palm's calendar. I then noticed
> that the conducts for Outlook were off and wouldn't turn back on
> because the conducts wouldn't support my version of Outlook.

Not sure it will solve the issue but Palm sent me 2 notices (about 5 hours
apart) on March 10th (nothing like early warning!):

> To help your calendar events and email reflect these new DST changes,
> please visit the link below to download the DST update for all Palm(R)
> devices. Remember, your device will NOT update automatically, so
> please download this update from Palm.com before March 11:
> http://News.palmnewsletters.com/cgi-bin13/DM/y/ekJl0WF4eZ0HXH0Zlu0G8

Kevin

David Weintraub (apparently) - Mar 25, 2007 4:58 pm (#6 Total: 6)

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Re: I lived through Daylight Saving 2007 and survived!

>> On my Windows XP PC, my Palm stopped sync'ing to Outlook. I didn't
>> realize this until the other day when I noticed that one particular
>> appointment wasn't showing up on my Palm's calendar. I then noticed
>> that the conducts for Outlook were off and wouldn't turn back on
>> because the conducts wouldn't support my version of Outlook.
>
> Not sure it will solve the issue but Palm sent me 2 notices (about
> 5 hours apart) on March 10th (nothing like early warning!):

This might explain the problem my wife was having with her Palm which
is sync'd to our Mac. I changed the DST rules manually in the Date/
Time settings (I changed when DST started for our city), but the
calendar then shifted the times one hour later. For example, a 3:00pm
appointment became 4:00pm with the notation that it started 3:00pm
EST. If I looked at the start time in the properties dialog box, it
showed the start time was in fact 3:00pm. I had to manually go into
each appointment and reselect the time zone for the appointment. I
didn't have to change the timezone (it was the correct timezone), but
simply reselect it.

I'll download this Palm patch to both my Palm and my wife's Palm. I
guess the Datebook program has a different DST rule than used by
their Date/Time setting.

David Weintraub

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