r2g (apparently)
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Mar 9, 2007 9:18 am
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
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> It does not affect Wacom tablets if you have the mapping to "Entire
> Tablet"
> and "Entire Display" and in "Pen Mode". If you have it set to
> "Mouse Mode"
> perhaps it does. (I'm traveling today and am on the Powerbook so I
> can't
> test it now) There are many settings to change the "feel" of the
> pen, I'm
> surprised that you couldn't find one that suited you.
It seems to me that the settings all fall under pressure and tilt
sensitivity (in pen mode and mapped fully), and I can improve the
situation marginally by adjusting those. It works slightly better
for continuous drawing when I don't lift my hand off the tablet, but
either way it still jerks and shifts and reshapes what I intended to
draw, and in the case of small disjointed lines, say lettering, it
jumps back to where I stopped as if it were some bezier tool rather
than a pixel-based brush. I have to say it felt better when I was on
Panther than after I migrated to Tiger but overall it never had the
feel of doodling on paper that I got from the cheap, old model on a PC.
I guess I'll give the USB Overdrive a shot.
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Richard Rucker
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Mar 10, 2007 12:02 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
On Mar 9, 2007, at 11:18 AM, johnbaxterlists  mac.com wrote:
> Based on comments in this thread so far, I seem to be the only entity
> on the planet who doesn't have a problem with mouse actions in Mac OS
> X. Must be my fault.
I don't have a problem, but I suspect that is because the software
that came with my Kensington "Expert Mouse" -- actually it is a track-
ball with 4 buttons and a scrolling ring -- provides its own
acceleration curve and doesn't rely on the default curve that comes
with OS X.
Dick
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rdh (apparently)
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Mar 10, 2007 12:02 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
On Mar 9, 2007, at 11:18 AM, johnbaxterlists mac.com wrote:
> Based on comments in this thread so far, I seem to be the only entity
> on the planet who doesn't have a problem with mouse actions in Mac OS
> X. Must be my fault.
I must admit that my problems vary with which combination of screen/
mouse/drivers I'm using - PBG4 15"/trackpad, no problem' - PBG4 15"/
3rd party mice/external 20"widescreen LCD, big problem.
I spend major time in Photoshop/Illustrator/InDesign with many
windows and documents spread across 2 screens - here I need both
speed AND precision, solved by using Wacom tablet/mouse combo for
precision, mouse/USBOverdrive for speed - annoying to need 2 devices
for what should be one function, and was until OSX.
ymmv,
Roger Henriques
rdh at rhen dot com
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Parrish S. Knight
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Mar 10, 2007 12:02 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
No, JohnBaxterLists, you're not the only one. If you Google, you'll find others saying that they either prefer the new motion or that they can't tell the difference. However, from everything I've seen, the people who hate the new curve outnumber them by a large margin.
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r2g (apparently)
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Mar 10, 2007 12:04 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
> Posted by: johnbaxterlists Date: Mar 9, 2007.
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> Based on comments in this thread so far, I seem to be the only entity
> on the planet who doesn't have a problem with mouse actions in Mac OS
> X. Must be my fault.
>
I don't have any problems either. I posted to this thread because the
article reminded me of my problems with my graphic tablet, but
apparently it isn't the same thing.
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Michael Logue (apparently)
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Mar 10, 2007 2:02 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
On Mar 9, 2007 John Baxter wrote:
> Based on comments in this thread so far, I seem to be the only entity
> on the planet who doesn't have a problem with mouse actions in Mac
> OS X
No, there are at least two of us. I have no problems either with the
Apple USB Mouse that came with my Mini or the Bluetooth Mighty Mouse
I am now using.
Michael Logue
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brutno (apparently)
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Mar 6, 2007 8:50 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
I noticed the odd mouse behavior in OS X on many occasions, and attributed it to my MX 700 cordless mouse. I also wondered why I liked booting back into OS 9. (There are some apps I need Mac OS 9 for, and Classic is too much of a processor hog for my aged system.)
This explains it all - thank you!
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Parrish S. Knight
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Mar 6, 2007 9:48 pm
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Re: Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
I'm glad I could help... when I think of how long I suffered before I finally made some progress on this, it gives me a good feeling to know that I'm helping someone else get on top of the problem.
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Norman Dahl
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Mar 6, 2007 9:50 pm
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Re: Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
Can anyone suggest settings for SteerMouse that mimic the OS9 curve? This might save people a lot of fiddling, given the short free trial of this product.
Cheers
-norman-
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David Weintraub (apparently)
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Mar 12, 2007 12:15 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
I actually prefer the Mac's mouse motion over Windows'. Windows'
mouse feels loose and fast. Although I have no problems with the
accuracy of either mouse, I find using a Windows mouse is like
steering one of those old Buicks vs. a European car. My parents never
liked the steering of my Passat which they find "sluggish".
I suspect that much of the problem stems to what people are use to.
Since most people use Windows, and Linux's mouse emulate windows,
people find Apple's mouse movements weird.
I wonder if Apple's mouse settings are based upon Unix's mouse
setting (not Linux, but the old TriTeal Solaris and HP/UX desktops).
That would be an interesting comparison. Maybe even comparing Mac OS
X to NeXT.
David Weintraub
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samack
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Mar 12, 2007 12:20 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
My problem is with my scroll button and it was fine until my computer crashed. I can't remember if it came with software. But now it just doesn't really work very well at all.
Sandyt
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chuck goolsbee (apparently)
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Mar 12, 2007 4:09 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
>I wonder if Apple's mouse settings are based upon Unix's mouse
>setting (not Linux, but the old TriTeal Solaris and HP/UX desktops).
>That would be an interesting comparison. Maybe even comparing Mac OS
>X to NeXT.
The NeXT boxes I worked with used ADB mouse & keyboard - like the old
MacOS. Both handled mouse input at the hardware layer (mouse cursor
appeared before the OS was booted) so the comparison isn't too valid.
I always hated the SunOS/Solaris mouse handling. The horizontal mouse
cursor in SunView (I'm dating myself!) was annoying and the early Sun
optical mouse and metal mouse pad were even more annoying.
--chuck
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micvil (apparently)
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Mar 12, 2007 4:09 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
I'm fond of the OS X mouse acceleration curve. I've tried to analyse
my mouse/trackpad behaviour, and I think my preference comes from
this being a two step movement where I only really want two speeds,
the high movement speed for moving over the screen to the vicinity of
the target, and the slow speed for fine adjustment. Any speed in
between really just makes the movement more complicated, and to me a
steep curve is the best. I'm guessing another common mouse behaviour
is gradually slowing down the cursor movement, and in this case a
less steep curve makes sense. My movement, closing in on the target,
definitely isn't smooth, like I've seen other people do it, but it
suits me and feels effective to me.
I suppose the easy solution be an option to have a more Windows/Linux-
like mouse behaviour, and a Mac OS 9 variant too.
Thank you for another good article, makes me really understand the
topic in depth.
/Michael
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rjmorita (apparently)
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Mar 12, 2007 4:09 pm
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
> My problem is with my scroll button and it was fine until my
> computer crashed. I can't remember if it came with software.
> But now it just doesn't really work very well at all.
I have not had a problem with mouse acceleration but my scroll wheel never worked correctly.
I've been using an optical mouse from Microsoft. The scroll wheel has a very slow response. It works fine for a while then all of a sudden it pauses for a few seconds. It is very, very annoying. I tried another optical mouse from another manufacturer (of which I cannot recall the name) with the same result.
I don't know if prices that I paid for them have anything to do with it. They were both around fifteen dollars or so. Perhaps I should stop being such a cheapskate and buy a better unit. Ironically, even the cheapest mouse works fine on a PC I use at work. I installed USB Overdrive mentioned in the article and the scroll wheel seems to work *slightly* better.
Ryoichi Morita
Coarsegold, CA
ryoichi rjmorita.com
http://www.rjmorita.com
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Dave Davis
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Mar 13, 2007 9:49 am
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
I just never found the standard speeds fast enough, as I have mine set to the max on my 17" iMac. So, I tried SteerMouse, and quickly got into an overspeed problem, as the pointer moved so fast it was invisable. Of course, I couldn't use my Mac, forcing me to reboot as a guest, remove the horrible app, then reboot. I then found a free GUI'd version of MouseFix at MouseFixIt at < http://lavacat.com/iMouseFix/>. Very simple GUI interface, freeware and doesn't overspeed to the point of being impossible to use. Easy to install, too.
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Taro at news3yen.com
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Mar 13, 2007 9:49 am
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
Burkhardt Brian <Brian.Burkhardthcahealthcare.com> wrote: For some strange (and so far unidentifiable) reason, the mouse pointer will occasionally (but too often for my taste) dart off to one of the sides On my 20" iMac G5 running under OS 10.3.9 this runaway cursor problem is a pain-in-the-rear using my generic 2-button/scrollwheel mouse. However, the problem became *worse* when I tried using the new MightyMouse I purchased to solve the problem. I was hoping to buy the new Leopard (Mac OS X 10.5) to cure this problem, but now I see I may need to get MouseZoom or buy something like USBOverdrive. Meh.
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André
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Apr 10, 2007 9:24 am
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
I have no trouble with the acceleration curve with OS X, but I do have a big problem with the acceleration in all. It is really such a stupid problem but howcome you, with OS X, can not disable the acceleration and just adjust the sensitivity for the mouse? I want FULL controle over my mouse, I want to be able to draw pictures, make markings and such in PS or wherever, just as I can do in Windows. They have the acceleration feature, why can't OS X just have the ability to disable it and go hardcore sensitivity? Its such a stupid issue because for me this is something I took for granted in every operative system.
Configure the mouse the way you want! It should be possible. Especially about Mac, most grafic designers and developers use Mac right? Howcome noone cares about this deal-breaking option?
Sorry I seem a bit frustrated, but I am. I have been downloading applicaion after application, hacks and addons. Nothing about this is excusable for Apple, its simply bad. If anyone can just shut me up and tell me how to fix this, ill be a happy man again :-D
Thanks for your time!
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Lewis Butler (apparently)
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Apr 11, 2007 4:20 am
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
On 10-Apr-2007, at 10:24, André wrote:
> I have no trouble with the acceleration curve with OS X, but I do
> have a big problem with the acceleration in all. It is really such
> a stupid problem but howcome you, with OS X, can not disable the
> acceleration and just adjust the sensitivity for the mouse? I want
> FULL controle over my mouse, I want to be able to draw pictures,
> make markings and such in PS or wherever, just as I can do in
> Windows. They have the acceleration feature, why can't OS X just
> have the ability to disable it and go hardcore sensitivity? Its
> such a stupid issue because for me this is something I took for
> granted in every operative system.
You can. se the mouse speed to "tablet"
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André
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Apr 12, 2007 9:02 am
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
Hi!
I appologize for my last entry here, I googled and read only the comments, not the article.
The article was fantastic and mouseFix solved ALL my problems! It's amazing haha! Finally a Windows-simulated mouse curve. Thanks..
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David Graham
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Aug 6, 2007 9:27 am
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Re: Mac OS X's Mouse Acceleration Problem
Amen! I thought I was being overly critical when I gave up in
frustration and bought a Microsoft Mouse. With your readership I'd
recommend posting a petition for Apple to change this insane
behavior. I'll be the first one to sign it.
Thanks!
--
David Graham
davidgraham mac.com
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