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Dragon Naturally Speaking under Parallels vs Bootcamp

[Neuburg, Matt]Matt Neuburg (apparently) - 11:23am Mar 6, 2007 PST
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This is from a reader, about a subject I've been really curious about:
whether Dragon Naturally Speaking (dictation software) might work under
Parallels, just in case I should get an Intel Mac one of these days. I found
the reader's report interesting. It turns out that (with some fiddling) it
does work, which I find pretty amazing. On the other hand, this reader
thinks there enough advantages to running it under BootCamp instead that
maybe it doesn't matter after all.

> Bootcamp really looks like and acts like Windows, and responds
> similarly, with all the quirks one would expect. DNS works fine, no
> problems.
>
> Parallels does an amazingly good job. Dragon seems able to perform
> similarly, but with a couple of annoyances: The inputs, such as USB
> devices or CDs need to be selected and identified before they can be
> used. Sometimes Parallels says it's busy and to try again, but to no
> avail. I finally took Parallels off, including ALL the software I'd
> installed within it, reinstalled everything, and that seemed to
> help...some hours later! The problem was that I could not get it to
> recognize my USB headset which I'd specifically purchased for DNS. I
> have succeeded in using the headset once with Parallels now. The
> Nuance approved headset (Plantronics) gives an acceptable voice
> reception right off the bat. But even the iMac microphone managed to
> do OK, with no fancy set up, as long as I articulated very clearly
> and distinctly...but with no voice training yet!! DNS is a truly
> amazing program!!
>
> While there is probably some delay with the speech recognition, going
> through both DNS and Parallels, it does an amazingly good job. I
> felt comfortable dictating as I normally would. There is always some
> delay between actual speech and when it shows up on the screen, and
> when it actually gets typed into a document. I have not attempted to
> time and see how much more of a delay there might be, but, overall,
> it really doesn't matter. Essentially, then, what I'm saying is:
> yes, one can use DNS with Parallels on the Mac. Delightful!
>
> I find the screen for Parallels to be too small on the ordinary iMac
> screen (I have 24") to be too small to be really useful for many
> programs, including DNS, since one also needs a word doc open at the
> same time. There's no problem enlarging the screen to full size, but
> then one can't see the controls for it to identify a USB input
> device, for example. So you need to get everything set up with
> Parallels menus before enlarging the screen, or you need to go back
> and forth. I'm not sure Parallels has many more assets over Bootcamp
> (only drawback is needing to reboot to get back to the Mac side, and
> vice versa). If I had to choose one over the other, hmmmm. Not sure
> which I'd pick. I still haven't figured out all the quirks of
> Parallels, some of which have been annoying, but I suppose once I did
> that, maybe Parallels would have the advantage. But I haven't done
> so, so.............. Bootcamp is pretty straight forward, with no
> extra settings to get things to work, above and beyond what Windows
> brings to the table. I have not, and will not be trying either of
> these with Vista. At least not for a year or two until the wrinkles
> have been ironed out.

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Alexander Hoffman (apparently) - Mar 6, 2007 9:48 pm (#1 Total: 7)  

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>Essentially, then, what I'm saying is:
>yes, one can use DNS with Parallels on the Mac. Delightful!

This is really interesting to me, as I was unable to get DNS to work
under Parallels. It looked like it was working, during training, but
it never actually worked, for some reason.

Of course, this was a much earlier version of Parallels than we have
today. I would love to know what version your secret informant found
to work, Matt.

And what I would REALLY love is some kind of word from either Dragon
or from Parallels (the companies) atesting that it works, even if it
is not optimal. And perhaps a setup guide for getting DNS working for
Parallels.

I have found iListen to be so bad as to be useless. Perhaps with some
serious use/training my DNS would be as good as Pogue claims his is,
but I currently have to reboot (into windows) in order to use it. If
I could do it in Parallels, I would be MUCH more likely to put in
that kind time. Rebooting is a BIG deal for me, as I tend to keep
many windows open in a number of applications.

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kirklists (apparently) - Mar 6, 2007 9:48 pm (#2 Total: 7)  

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On Mar 6, 2007, at 7:23 PM, Matt Neuburg wrote:

> This is from a reader, about a subject I've been really curious about:
> whether Dragon Naturally Speaking (dictation software) might work
> under
> Parallels, just in case I should get an Intel Mac one of these
> days. I found
> the reader's report interesting. It turns out that (with some
> fiddling) it
> does work, which I find pretty amazing. On the other hand, this reader
> thinks there enough advantages to running it under BootCamp instead
> that
> maybe it doesn't matter after all.

It works extremely well - I've got it running in Parallels. The issue
of selecting the USB device is minor; I was gobsmacked by the
accuracy before I even did any training....


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Randy B. Singer (apparently) - Mar 6, 2007 9:48 pm (#3 Total: 7)  

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On Mar 6, 2007, at 10:23 AM, Matt Neuburg wrote:

> This is from a reader, about a subject I've been really curious about:
> whether Dragon Naturally Speaking (dictation software) might work
> under
> Parallels...

There is currently an ongoing discussion about this on the MacVoice
discussion list:

http://listserver.themacintoshguy.com/mailman/listinfo/macvoice

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Dan Gaters - Mar 13, 2007 9:49 am (#4 Total: 7)  

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This is somewhat tangential, but has anybody been able to run Camtasia Studio 4.0 under Parallels? I figure video complications in Parallels might be similar to sound/synthesis complications under the same.

gtuck052 - Mar 21, 2007 12:06 pm (#5 Total: 7)  

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Any considerations about apportioning system 1GB RAM running DNS on Parallels for optimum all round speed?

Word is usually running on XP volume.

Word, Firefox, iTunes usually running on OSX volume.

DNS8 currently installed. Considering upgrade to DNS9.

/g

Curtis Wilcox (apparently) - Mar 22, 2007 2:24 pm (#6 Total: 7)  

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On Mar 21, 2007, at 3:06 PM, gtuck052 wrote:

> Any considerations about apportioning system 1GB RAM running DNS on
> Parallels for optimum all round speed?

> DNS8 currently installed. Considering upgrade to DNS9.

Note that the system requirements for NaturallySpeaking 9, 1GHz
Pentium (or equivalent), 512MB RAM, 1GB free disk space, are double
those of version 8. This is probably the price you pay for v9's main
improvement, you can use it without training.

Assigning more than Parallel's default 512MB RAM to the virtual
machine probably benefits any version of NaturallySpeaking but may be
essential for v9.

http://www.nuance.com/naturallyspeaking/preferred/sysreqs.asp


alexy - Apr 27, 2007 6:01 am (#7 Total: 7)  

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I was really happy to find this discussion -- it's great to hear from other mac people using DNS!

I just started running DNS with Parallels and have been hitting some problems. I'm wondering what you all think, or if you have any suggestions about what I can do. (For lots of reasons, I'd rather not have to use Boot Camp -- the Pogue article has scared me, too, even though it sounds like lots of people have proven him wrong.)

My problem is that the program is running really really really slowly. I'll say, "notes colon" and the DNS text box will hang and hang, then, eventually, type "purple turtle." What's going on? Could it be a bad microphone? (I'm using a Plantronics USB.) Could it be ambient noise? (I've closed all my windows, but there is still the occasional bus or car alarm.) Or something else? I checked the activity monitor and there is nothing else using so much memory that I could explain such a delay.

I'd be happy for any ideas or suggestions, especially if you have a mic/headset that you have found to work really well.

thanks!



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