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Running with a Garmin Forerunner GPS

[Berberich, Wolfgang]Wolfgang Berberich - 07:36am Feb 20, 2007 PST
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Regarding this article on TidBITS I'd take the opportunity to
announce a freeware alternative, or more a extension, to Garmin Training Center
for MacOS X. Anyone who is interested is invited to give TrailRunner
a try.

<http://db.tidbits.com/article/8190>

Thanks.
- berbie.
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TrailRunner - route planning for long distance sports.
http://www.trailrunnerx.com

TrailRunner 1.3 Released - Route planner for sports with iPod and
Garmin GPS Support
If you ever asked yourself how long your workout routes are and what
route you should choose for this evening - then TrailRunner should be
your training-partner.

For people who enjoy running, biking or hiking TrailRunner is a route
planning application that connects the Nike + iPod sports kit or GPS
devices like the Garmin ForeRunner and Garmin Edge with an
interactive topo map. Plan and calculate the distances of routes,
journalize your workouts and write about your training progress in a
weblog published to your .Mac account.

The new Release 1.3 sports a direct connection to Garmin Training
Center for Mac OS X. You now can put some colors on trails and
internet map loading was greatly improved.

With TrailRunner you plan your favorite running, biking or hiking
tours and calculate their distances on a geographical map.
TrailRunner features a route planning tool that always finds the
nicest ones, regardless of the distance the integrated exercise-plan
tells you to accomplish for today. When starting the automatic route
planner, an army of virtual ants runs through your map seeking for
the best route they can find for you. They decide that by the rating
of your trails. And rating a trail is much like rating a song in
iTunes. The more you like a trail, the more stars you'll spend. This
guarantees that the result will always be one of the nicest possible
routes for a given distance. Something that really can push your
motivation.

For better orientation while you are on your way, route descriptions
can be exported as small NanoMaps onto your iPod or cellphone. A
NanoMap is a small clipping of the geographical map guiding you into
the right direction as soon as you arrive at trail junctions.

After you return home, download your workout data from your iPod or
Garmin GPS device and add a new entry to your workout diary. A
beautiful graphical chart depicts your training progress.
Additionally publish and share your workout diary and routes with the
integrated .Mac weblog tool.

With its import and export capabilities TrailRunner is a real team
player: View your routes in 3D with the KML export for GoogleEarth,
download interactive topographical maps, satellite imagery and
elevation data from online services like NASA and USGS. Import GPX
files from online tour databases or even publish your own favorites.

With this feature set TrailRunner is the perfect companion for
runners, bikers, hikers and all people wandering under the sky.

The following magazines already printed a review of TrailRunner:
french SVM Mac magazine, UK MacFormat magazine, german MacLife
magazine, german c't magazine. TrailRunner is rated 4 stars at
versiontracker and a 4 1/2 stars at macupdate.

TrailRunner is a freeware that can be donated for.









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Matt Neuburg (apparently) - Feb 21, 2007 9:14 am (#1 Total: 4)  

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Re: Running with a Garmin Forerunner GPS

On or about 2/20/07 6:36 AM, thus spake "Wolfgang Berberich"
<berbiemac.com>:

> Regarding this article on TidBITS I'd take the opportunity to
> announce a freeware alternative, or more a extension, to Garmin Training
> Center
> for MacOS X. Anyone who is interested is invited to give TrailRunner
> a try.

> http://www.trailrunnerx.com

As a user, I'd like to add that this is a Really Cool Program. I use it to
make up for the *lack* of a GPS: it tells me the lengths of my running
routes. m.

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schinder (apparently) - Feb 23, 2007 12:26 pm (#2 Total: 4)  

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Matt Neuburg wrote:
> On or about 2/20/07 6:36 AM, thus spake "Wolfgang Berberich"
> <berbiemac.com>:
>
>> Regarding this article on TidBITS I'd take the opportunity to
>> announce a freeware alternative, or more a extension, to Garmin Training
>> Center
>> for MacOS X. Anyone who is interested is invited to give TrailRunner
>> a try.
>
>> http://www.trailrunnerx.com
>
> As a user, I'd like to add that this is a Really Cool Program. I use it to
> make up for the *lack* of a GPS: it tells me the lengths of my running
> routes. m.

I've been trying out the successive versions of TrailRunner since I
first learned about it from VersionTracker, well before I got a GPS.
I've played around with it occasionally, more so after I got my Garmin
GPSmap 60CSx. I've tried out several different programs to interact
with the GPS, and none of them are without their quirks and annoyances.
 For example, when I open a GPX track log in TrailRunner, it shows the
correct time and distance, but once imported, it loses the correct time,
since it uses the estimate of my average speed from the preferences to
compute the time from the distance. This may have some use when
planning a route, but it's simply wrong post facto. Data should
override estimates. Since I do both road and mountain biking and cross
country skiing (with an occasional hike thrown in), there's no one
average speed that I could put in anyway. Even for road cycling, the 17
mph average I put in is correct for mid-summer road cycling, but when I
get out in a few weeks time for the first time I'll be lucky to stay in
the 15's what with the extra clothing and colder air.

So once I get a track in and the maps loaded into TrailRunner, the times
are wrong, and in any event, there doesn't seem to be much you can do
with it. It'd be nice if you could click on a point on the track and
have it show you things like elevation, speed, or cumulative distance at
that point. Even cooler would be a Google Earth like "replay the track"
feature. (Maybe it does all this, but I haven't found out just by
playing around with it.) I agree it's a Really Cool Program, but I
haven't really figured out how to make it useful to me. Part of that is
undoubtedly that I haven't had the time yet to sit down with it and read
through the documentation.

The program I use most often is MacGPS Pro (http://www.macgpspro.com/).
 Most of the annoyances there are UI problems; using it is like using a
program on my first 512k Mac. The scroll wheel and extra buttons on my
mouse do nothing, the arrow keys and page up/page down do nothing. You
must use the scroll bars to move around. I'm always setting the track
lines to wide (they're hard to see otherwise) from the pull down menu
(no preference to set it that way automatically, and no way to change
the color used for the track). On the other hand, it allows you to see
speeds, distances, and altitudes along the track, including creating an
altitude profile plot, and can handle multiple maps and tracks, so it's
quite useful, but it does have an annoying UI. It also takes much
longer than TrailRunner or Google Earth to download a track from the GPS.

I use Google Earth to "replay" tracks, which is fun. But Google Earth
doesn't seem to take any notice of time information (replaying a track
is at a constant speed, so you go as fast climbing a mountain as
descending it).

There's a new program I became aware of just recently called Ascent
(http://www.montebellosoftware.com/). The Quicktime demo I saw at their
web site is really nice, but it won't communicate with the 60CSx, and it
won't read GPX files in demo mode. So I'm still looking for a single
"killer app" to use with the GPS.
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schinder (apparently) - Feb 23, 2007 9:54 pm (#3 Total: 4)  

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Paul Schinder wrote:
>
> There's a new program I became aware of just recently called Ascent
> (http://www.montebellosoftware.com/). The Quicktime demo I saw at their
> web site is really nice, but it won't communicate with the 60CSx, and it
> won't read GPX files in demo mode. So I'm still looking for a single
> "killer app" to use with the GPS.


Just as an addendum to this, after I wrote this I learned on the Yahoo
macmap list that the Ascent demo had been changed so it would read a
limited number of GPX files. I downloaded the new demo, loaded a GPX,
and 5 minutes later was purchasing a key from Kagi. I think I found my
killer app. There are a few things that could be better (it could
include "XC skiing" as an activity or let the user have control of the
list, and let the equipment list be user settable; I have two road bikes
and I like to keep track of rides according to bike, not category. It'd
also be neat if it downloaded the weather information from somewhere
rather than having to enter it). All in all, though, it's a Really Cool
Program.

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Paul Schinder
schinderpobox.com

michael.macaskill - Feb 27, 2007 3:45 pm (#4 Total: 4)  

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I'll put in a vote for IB Runners Log ( http://www.iridiumblue.com/pages/prod-IBRL.shtml )

It is a very elegant Cocoa program which at this stage is restricted to dealing with serial-based (i.e. currently not USB) Garmin GPS units, in particular the ForeRunner 201 and 301.

It allows you to keep track of your running/cycling etc, plot maps and display them in Google Earth, and has a nice set of statistical graphs to allow you to track cumulative distances run, average pace, number of runs per month, etc. One nice feature allows you to keep track of distances each pair of shoes has been used. Clearly developed by a keen runner.

It is a capable, simple and beautifully executed program which I'd recommend to anyone with a ForeRunner. The demo runs for 60 days and is fully functional. Sometimes you might find that your runs seem to have disappeared though: that is solved by pushing a button to re-generate the demo licence. A new version is due out soon. I haven't tried out TrailRunner so can't compare it.



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