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[Winer, Dave]Dave Winer - 10:30pm Feb 19, 2007 PST
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re: http://db.tidbits.com/article/8867

Aaron's app uses the links the Times supplies in the RSS feeds.


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Adam Engst - Feb 20, 2007 11:40 am (#1 Total: 3)  

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Re: NY Times links

>re: <http://db.tidbits.com/article/8867>
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>Aaron's app uses the links the Times supplies in the RSS feeds.

If I go to the New York Times site in Safari, click the RSS icon in
the address bar, and then click a link in the feed, I get something
like this:

<http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/20/nyregion/20casino.html?ex=1329627600&en=1088ed00bb331056&ei=5088&partner=rssnyt&emc=rss>

When I use Aaron's app, I get this:

<http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/20/nyregion/20casino.html?ex=1329627600&en=108aecf8bb331956&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland&emc=rss>

Although I can't tell with this particular link whether it will break
for a week or so, I'm pretty sure that the first version will and the
second version won't. They're quite different, with different en, ei,
and partner values, and in my testing while writing the article, the
ones that didn't use rssuserland didn't stay available.

Of course, it's entirely possible I just got confused among all the
different links that are advertised, but one way or another, the
Permalink feature that the New York Times advertises does not provide
a permanent free link. And more to the point, if you want to
reference an article you've seen, or you search for something and
find an New York Times article, you're going to have a very hard time
finding the URL supplied by the Times in their RSS feed. Aaron's app
exposes that, one way or another.

cheers... -Adam

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Joe - Feb 23, 2007 12:26 pm (#2 Total: 3)  

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Adam --

This would seem to work only if you spot an article during the short period that it's posted for free, right? That is:

As a subscriber, I get TimesSelect, so I can dig through the archives and pull out the full text of 100 articles a month. But when I do, I get a URL like this one:

<http://select.nytimes.com/search/restricted/article?res=F60D14F83A5B0C758CDDA10894DE404482>

Nothing mysterious about that "restricted" part. Aaron's app can't parse this one, and I don't think there's any other way to get into the archives.

So it would seem that you've got to pull a URL while the article is still fresh and free (the first week I think), right?

Adam Engst - Mar 7, 2007 10:46 pm (#3 Total: 3)  

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>This would seem to work only if you spot an article during the short
>period that it's posted for free, right?

In most cases, as I wrote in my followup article, as long as you have
the original link, you can get the article. See:

http://db.tidbits.com/article/8881

cheers... -Adam



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